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Brent Pogue

privaterarecoincollectorprivaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 6, 2017 2:51AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I wonder what Brent Pogue is doing now, is he completely out of coins ?
I always assumed they had to sell as it was a family collection and he might start something new on his own.
Also they still seem to have the 1804 Dollar, the 1854-S Half Eagle and the 1822 Half Eagle.
Does anybody know ?

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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2017 5:48AM

    Large size currency?

  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Upgrading his Barber quarter collection
    Ex Sunnywood

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2017 7:02AM

    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:
    Upgrading his Barber quarter collection
    Ex Sunnywood

    1901-S as nice as yours (ex:Eiliasberg?)?

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • earlyAurumearlyAurum Posts: 747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are other important coins is his collection that never came to market such as his 1841 and 1854-s quarter eagles.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think he has started a PCGS Presidential Dollar variety collection trying to get all POS A and POS B dollars in high grade... :)

  • Why not reach out to him and ask? It seems like you two would have a lot to talk about.

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2017 9:44AM

    If the Bass Sylloge doesn't come up for grabs soon, the Anton estate might offer some fun :#;):o

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2017 9:51AM

    @joebb21 said:
    Rumor Im going with is that he has secretly been adding some of the finest lowball coins to his new collection. I was told by a reliable source that TDN offered $10,000,000 for his 1794 $1 pcgs po01 cac but was tuned down...

    I heard a rumor that the coin was politically downgraded from NGC FR02 to get the bean >:)

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2017 12:54PM

    @ColonelJessup said:

    @joebb21 said:
    Rumor Im going with is that he has secretly been adding some of the finest lowball coins to his new collection. I was told by a reliable source that TDN offered $10,000,000 for his 1794 $1 pcgs po01 cac but was tuned down...

    I heard a rumor that the coin was politically downgraded from NGC FR02 to get the bean >:)

    What? I thought Mark Salzberg said it would upgrade not downgrade. Isn't that what his email about the NGC registry suggested? :#

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2017 4:39PM

    @ColonelJessup said:

    @joebb21 said:
    Rumor Im going with is that he has secretly been adding some of the finest lowball coins to his new collection. I was told by a reliable source that TDN offered $10,000,000 for his 1794 $1 pcgs po01 cac but was tuned down...

    I heard a rumor that the coin was politically downgraded from NGC FR02 to get the bean >:)

    What? I thought Mark Salzberg said it would upgrade not downgrade. Isn't that what his email about the NGC registry suggested? :#

    By no means. Kool-Aid has warped your logic. Luckily your emoji mitigates your offense :#
    FR02 is honest enough for what's left of the coin, but JA got bored watching the first video of @Laurie telling @TDN what he couldn't buy. >:)

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sour grapes

  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Sour grapes

    350

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seriously?

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2017 8:55PM

    @afford said:
    Does it really matter.
    When you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth and your dad writes the checks for any amount how is that a good thing to anyone in the hobby other than the seller of the big dollar item. I an only think of 1 or 2 members here who would benefit from his continued collecting.

    EPN would likely take his call. Watching him bidding in situ, I can't count the number of times he frowned as his auction paddle judiciously went down, Don't the blame on him for being given a bad start. :'( .

    I also get a kick from watching Steve Duckor and Jimmy Hayes continuing to get their kicks.
    Maybe Brent'll collect posters from movies that had coins in them. :*

    Look up schadenfreude :'(

    Then leave the guy alone. Prurient interest yuck!

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColonelJessup said:

    @afford said:
    Does it really matter.
    When you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth and your dad writes the checks for any amount how is that a good thing to anyone in the hobby other than the seller of the big dollar item. I an only think of 1 or 2 members here who would benefit from his continued collecting.

    EPN would likely take his call. Watching him bidding in situ, I can't count the number of times he frowned as his auction paddle judiciously went down, Don't the blame on him for being given a bad start. :'( .

    I also get a kick from watching Steve Duckor and Jimmy Hayes continuing to get their kicks.
    Maybe Brent'll collect posters from movies that had coins in them. :*

    Look up schadenfreude :'(

    Then leave the guy alone. Prurient interest yuck!

    When someone shows you their true colors believe them. It's why I wrote this poster off moons ago.

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @afford said:
    Does it really matter.
    When you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth and your dad writes the checks for any amount how is that a good thing to anyone in the hobby other than the seller of the big dollar item. I an only think of 1 or 2 members here who would benefit from his continued collecting.

    First, to the extent that many of us enjoy sharing the hobby with like-minded individuals, yes, it matters if someone continues to collect coins. Especially when that person has many friends in the hobby, as does Brent.

    And second, you ask "who would benefit from his continued collecting"? I'll ask, who would be harmed?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2017 8:35AM

    @afford said:
    Unfortunately or fortunately many individuals kiss the arse of monied folks.....its what they do. [...] Why money makes certain individuals believe they are better than others baffles me but then I get baffled often...its what I do.

    What is your beef with Brent?

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @afford said:
    Unfortunately or fortunately many individuals kiss the arse of monied folks.....its what they do. Certain dealers need monied collectors which isn't surprising and certain collectors look up monied collectors what else is new. I witnessed a certain monied collector who I will not name at one of the only shows I attended and was totally turned off by his demeanor, attitude and arrogance. Why money makes certain individuals believe they are better than others baffles me but then I get baffled often...its what I do. And that collectors is totally obvious to what I am talking about which is his only saving grace.

    As a slum lord you have a little bit of money, no one of merit smuches your behind save for a few dealers who are oblagated into their Faustian bargain.

    Your premise is flawed :p

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Forgive me for coveting my neighbor's goods. I blame my neighbors for the grass being greener on the other side.

  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My biggest beef with the Internet is the cloak of anonymity that so many folks cuddle under, and in many case thrive under. Let's stay the course gentlemen.....coins and knowledge.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2017 3:07PM

    @ColonelJessup said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    . And of course you have folks with a pebble in their shoe.

    mark

    And a log in their eye...

    Better then in the keister I suppose

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I appreciate any collector, who is a true knowledgeable collector, of whatever means. I also dislike idiots, of whatever means.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    The best part of this site is that you have people from all walks of life and experiences. You have people collecting below their means. You have people collecting above their means. People with little means and people with vast means. You have newbies and grizzled vets. Novices, would be experts and a few Real McCoy's. People ready to share their knowledge. Seeds of wisdom. And of course you have folks with a pebble in their shoe.

    mark

    Wait a minute. That all sounds familiar. I think I know that tune!

    We got winners. We got losers. Chain smokers and boozers.
    And the girls next door dress-up like movie stars.
    Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm, I love this bar, er Forum

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wS44gI9SuHY

  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭

    I am nearly certain that Brent would not appreciate this thread. He does not want to be discussed in public forums. It would be more appropriate to discuss the Pogue Family coins that have been sold than to publicly speculate about Brent's current collecting activities.

    Gazes: I can tell you that I know of one fairly major collector who restarted his collection when the news of the Pogue sale came out. Having such an incredible collection in the news rekindled his interest. I am sure this happen to others too.

    Indeed, the Pogue sales spurred interest in coins and caused people who were already interested to spend more time thinking about rare coins. There was a lot of excitement.

    Fortunately, Stack's-Bowers conducted lot viewing sessions in multiple cities and brought Pogue Collection coins to several major conventions. We should be grateful that the SBG staff successfully made the coins available to a large number of interested collectors.

    On the whole, the Pogue sales were beneficial to the coin community, for multiple reasons.

    To understand the classic U.S. coins that a collector owns, there is a need to understand coins that he or she cannot afford. Frequently, students of art learn about paintings that few people can afford, as learning about those paintings is necessary for attaining a substantial understanding of art history and interpretations of art in the present.

    The Marvelous Pogue Family Coin Collection, part 17: Importance of the 4th Sale to Collectors who Cannot Afford the Coins

    "In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me
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  • @afford said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Forgive me for coveting my neighbor's goods. I blame my neighbors for the grass being greener on the other side.

    FYI I had the opportunity to buy many of his coins, but wanted nothing to do with them. A lousy pedigree if you ask me. I have no time for silver spoons that delegate their research and search procurement of coins to others and take a back seat only to write the check and that is about it. I don't need to obtain the highest graded coin in the holder unless there are additional reasons like best eye appeal (although that is very subjective and great pedigree and great rarity) but just to own the highest graded holder as opposed to the nicest where the holder or the holder's grade isn't the number of utmost concern.
    But I know how y'all think so I won't waste my time or your posting in this thread. Long live the king of coins!

    hasn't the guy been actively collecting coins for something like 30 years?

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2017 5:22PM

    @afford said:
    And you think you know everything.

    I don't and I'm quite aware of that.But I'm a good person. I can live with that.

    You are assuming a lot on the subject matter with very little actual knowledge . What is the matter with you? Seriously?

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. I didn't mean to do anything but apologize because I cannot AFFORD that which I hope for. I suppose YA'LL can forgive me, or not.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 11, 2017 8:17AM

    @Justacommeman said:

    @ColonelJessup said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    . And of course you have folks with a pebble in their shoe.

    mark

    And a log in their eye...

    Better then in the keister I suppose

    m

    Laura's writing style is creeping in here, now and then. LOL.
    Who can say " I love y' all " ? ... I got a size 12 in mine, once.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe afford can fax Brent an apology

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @afford said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Forgive me for coveting my neighbor's goods. I blame my neighbors for the grass being greener on the other side.

    FYI I had the opportunity to buy many of his coins, but wanted nothing to do with them. A lousy pedigree if you ask me. I have no time for silver spoons that delegate their research and search procurement of coins to others and take a back seat only to write the check and that is about it. I don't need to obtain the highest graded coin in the holder unless there are additional reasons like best eye appeal (although that is very subjective and great pedigree and great rarity) but just to own the highest graded holder as opposed to the nicest where the holder or the holder's grade isn't the number of utmost concern.
    But I know how y'all think so I won't waste my time or your posting in this thread. Long live the king of coins!

    Alan

    I have seen much of your collection (at least the stuff photographed) and for the life of me don't understand how you can even mention your self in same sentence let alone think of yourself to be in a place to judge Pogue. When I see your stuff I basically just see a hodgepodge of fourm trendy stuff from the last 15 years funneled to you by a few dealers and a bunch of over auctioned fillers in between. Nothing that hasn't been done by others before, since or being worthy of greater conversation.

    I would recommend getting off your high rocking horse, stop being a copy cat collector , learn basic people skills and stop relying on trolling as a mechanism of getting attention. If you do that maybe you would get the positive attention you clearly so desperately crave. It is a shame as when you decided to "emulate" my collection I welcomed you in and spent hours trying to educate you and your peculiarities. I am sure you think it is someone else's fault every trade dollar collector has written you off (save for maybe the hobbit in Montana) but I would encourage you to do some honest self reflection on why you can't elicit even a minimum of basic respect from any of the gentlemen you share a common bond with. After all for me the best parts of collecting is all about sharing the hobby with friends and being friendless would be sort of a travesty and make the amassing of coins sort of pointless. But hey keep writing those checks, dealers have mortgages too.

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  • I've always enjoyed seeing afford's pedigreed coins he posts on the forum - very nice coins - but I think I enjoy the bickering between afford and Crypto a little more. This is the first time in about a decade of feuding that I've read anything about the "hobbit in Montana." This is great stuff.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @afford said:
    Crypt,
    just call me your friendly neighborhood copycat. I like it that you believe you are g-d's gift to trade dollar collectors, that is a good one. It is a shame that when one disagrees with your style of buying at auctions you exact revenge by nonstop attacking on the forum.
    What can I say, I guess I am a coin snob, I rather buy coins owned by true noted numismatists like Valentine, Subjack, Newlin, Clapp & Lovejoy although I wouldn't throw a Garrett away.;)

    "Brent and his Dad were very interested in pedigrees, especially Eliasberg and Garrett"

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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