Yup....classic law of large numbers. A flat 10% increase across the board would be 3 grand for the bottom and 1.2 mil for the top. Great illustration of the power of compounding. The linear presentation ensures the greatest visual effect.
Hint....productive assets compound better than nonproductive ones.
Yup....classic law of large numbers. A flat 10% increase across the board would be 3 grand for the bottom and 1.2 mil for the top. Great illustration of the power of compounding. The linear presentation ensures the greatest visual effect.
Hint....productive assets compound better than nonproductive ones.
chart shows non capital gain changes with extremely high percentages for the top money holders. There is no flat 10% increase across the board. Chart clearly demonstrates a growing income inequality whether you agree or not.
Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar
I didn't say there was a 10% increase. I was illustrating the effect of large numbers.
Of course people who make more money will make more money. That was my comment of it takes money to make money.
You talk of inequality of the top 0.01% vs the other 99.99%. That's such a small segent of the population. You should focus on inequality of the 75% in the middle since this is really "the people". Is there a problem there and if so how to address it?
Corrado Gini set up a coefficient that bears his name and it's never been higher than it is today. The end game is putting all the money at the top and it continues unabated. One of the problems this generates is a populace that becomes dependent on public and private debt, which then spirals out of control.
It can be overcome but with one big impediment; The Golden Rule: "Those with the gold make the rules."
@Baley said:
Yeah, rich people never made more money than poor people until now, huh
People don't worry about people being rich, so long as they believe they can become rich, too. They might feel that way, even if the odds are long and the path there steep.
But if too many think that the game is rigged and they can't get there without corrupt and extra-legal means, then you're asking for trouble. Lots of those "rich people" lost their heads or were sent to the Gulag and "re-education camps."
I'm waiting for Congress to be held to the same standards on insider trading and to have healthcare plans no different from the odious one that they jammed down taxpayer's throats under false pretenses with no public disclosure beforehand and a bogus supreme court ruling to make it stick. Is that too much to ask?
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
"In the first quarter of 2017 alone, if banks would have retained their earnings instead of dumping them into dividends and buybacks, they could have increased lending by $1 trillion."
Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar
consumer and govt. debt is too high. Responsible lending and borrowing could easily put more money into the hands of small business for capital investment. Face it, there are worthy borrowers out there.
Reserve requirements for banks can and should be adjusted to meet bank risk as necessary. It is the best tool at the disposal of regulators to prevent another banking crisis.
Debt is not a bad thing unless it is recklessly handed out or poorly managed. I can remember when you went to the bank for a loan the loaning bank and only the loaning bank was on the hook if it did not get repaid. Bundling debt into neat little explosive packages and selling the bundle is what brought on the last crisis.
Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar
@jmski52 said:
Somebody's going to be very upset when they don't get paid. The question is, who?
Many civil servants will not be receiving their pensions. Certainly not the full amount. That's just for starters and will be one of the first coming to a head.
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Takes money to make money.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Imagine of the chart included capital gains? The oligarchy keeps on keepin' on.
chart excludes capital gains.
Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar
Wow... that is significant..... Cheers, RickO
Wow, the top 0.01% is almost Joel Osteen money.
Yup....classic law of large numbers. A flat 10% increase across the board would be 3 grand for the bottom and 1.2 mil for the top. Great illustration of the power of compounding. The linear presentation ensures the greatest visual effect.
Hint....productive assets compound better than nonproductive ones.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
chart shows non capital gain changes with extremely high percentages for the top money holders. There is no flat 10% increase across the board. Chart clearly demonstrates a growing income inequality whether you agree or not.
Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar
I didn't say there was a 10% increase. I was illustrating the effect of large numbers.
Of course people who make more money will make more money. That was my comment of it takes money to make money.
You talk of inequality of the top 0.01% vs the other 99.99%. That's such a small segent of the population. You should focus on inequality of the 75% in the middle since this is really "the people". Is there a problem there and if so how to address it?
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
The New Aristocracy is now firmly in control.
Yeah, rich people never made more money than poor people until now, huh
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Corrado Gini set up a coefficient that bears his name and it's never been higher than it is today. The end game is putting all the money at the top and it continues unabated. One of the problems this generates is a populace that becomes dependent on public and private debt, which then spirals out of control.
It can be overcome but with one big impediment; The Golden Rule: "Those with the gold make the rules."
People don't worry about people being rich, so long as they believe they can become rich, too. They might feel that way, even if the odds are long and the path there steep.
But if too many think that the game is rigged and they can't get there without corrupt and extra-legal means, then you're asking for trouble. Lots of those "rich people" lost their heads or were sent to the Gulag and "re-education camps."
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
Well said @dpoole
I'm waiting for Congress to be held to the same standards on insider trading and to have healthcare plans no different from the odious one that they jammed down taxpayer's throats under false pretenses with no public disclosure beforehand and a bogus supreme court ruling to make it stick. Is that too much to ask?
I knew it would happen.
FDIC Chairman exposes mega bank greed
"In the first quarter of 2017 alone, if banks would have retained their earnings instead of dumping them into dividends and buybacks, they could have increased lending by $1 trillion."
Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar
Lending would increase debt......don't you argue that debt is already too high?
Lending would expose the banks to greater risk.....don't you argue that banking system is already a "house of cards"?
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
consumer and govt. debt is too high. Responsible lending and borrowing could easily put more money into the hands of small business for capital investment. Face it, there are worthy borrowers out there.
Reserve requirements for banks can and should be adjusted to meet bank risk as necessary. It is the best tool at the disposal of regulators to prevent another banking crisis.
Debt is not a bad thing unless it is recklessly handed out or poorly managed. I can remember when you went to the bank for a loan the loaning bank and only the loaning bank was on the hook if it did not get repaid. Bundling debt into neat little explosive packages and selling the bundle is what brought on the last crisis.
Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar
Somebody's going to be very upset when they don't get paid. The question is, who?
I knew it would happen.
Insider trading is what made Congress members (Pelosi ) Multi-millionaires.
100% Positive BST transactions
Many civil servants will not be receiving their pensions. Certainly not the full amount. That's just for starters and will be one of the first coming to a head.