@Justacommeman said:
Someone should start a company that opines whether or not the coin is solid for the grade
mark
Not sure if that's a good idea. Such a company would only create ambiguity and controversy.
Ya your probably right. Besides you would need a well respected industry leader with like 50 years experience who would personally screen every coin in hand to start a company like that. Where are you going to get someone like this? What was I thinking?
mark
I guess you have graduated through CAC rehab/recovery.
@cameonut2011 said:
This thread has taken a bizarre turn. It is absurd to click BIN on an eBay listing only to gripe about the price and return it because you agreed to pay too much. That is an abusive return.
There are buyers who don't do their research before buying a coin, they trust the seller, their feedback, the holder, they are trying to fill a list of dates, better dates obviously are in stronger demand. However sellers have responsibilities first to the hobby to be courteous, honest and the other boyscout virtues. It is relatively easy to check reasonable market on any given coin on Coinfacts and HA. If buyers have unhappy experiences even if they were stupid to pull the trigger on a purchase, they may not be interested in buying more. There are so many other hobbies, it is vital to make this one better.
The only responsibility a seller has is to deliver the item and accurately describe it. Nothing more. There is too much hand holding these days. You should read and do your own research before entering into a contract. If not you should face the consequences of your actions.
Legally you may be correct. However ethics indicates more scrupulous actions:
What PNG requires:
To refrain from any of the following in dealing with non-professional customers:
(a) buying or selling at unreasonable prices;
(b) using high pressure sales techniques;
(c) using misleading performance data;
(d) comparing coins graded by a fringe grading service with those graded by an industry-standard, independent grading service in a way calculated to create an inaccurate impression;
(e) intentionally misrepresenting the origin, provenance or pedigree of a coin;
(f) intentionally misrepresenting the weight of a coin;
(g) intentionally misrepresenting the value of a coin;
(h) intentionally misrepresenting the investment potential of coins;
(i) intentionally misrepresenting an affiliation between myself and any Government agency.
To make an oral or written disclosure to my retail customers that (a) the coin market is speculative and unregulated; (b) many areas of numismatics lend themselves to third-party grading and authentication; (c) certification does not eliminate all risks associated with the grading of coins; and (d) as a PNG member, I am obliged to arbitrate any dispute relating to the purchase, sale or trade of coins and numismatic items.
Yet ironically there are a number of well known PNG members that are among the most flagrant violators of those principles, especially (a), (e), and (g).
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@georgiacop50 said:
I like the heritage coin much better
Brillliant
mark
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@Justacommeman said:
Someone should start a company that opines whether or not the coin is solid for the grade
mark
Not sure if that's a good idea. Such a company would only create ambiguity and controversy.
Ya your probably right. Besides you would need a well respected industry leader with like 50 years experience who would personally screen every coin in hand to start a company like that. Where are you going to get someone like this? What was I thinking?
mark
Mark!
Step away from the keyboard.
Cleansing breath. Thrice. ! ! !
Call your sponsor.
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Interesting, the OP started this thread to discuss a buyer who purchase a coin thru the BIN option on eBay.
Instead of discussing either:
1) his response to the customer, and the way that he approached the transaction, and comments;
or
2) the options that you (as a seller) would have done.
It has turned into a discussion about his prices.
I have seem MANY listings on eBay that I laughed at the prices, but if the seller wants to sell for a particular price, high or low, that is his option.
You may not like the OP's quality/prices/terms whatever, but you have to agree [I think] that the discussion has veered way off course from the original intent of the thread.
Or perhaps not.
PS: I don't know the OP, never bought coins from him/her and never heard of them before this.
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I guess you have graduated through CAC rehab/recovery.
Yet ironically there are a number of well known PNG members that are among the most flagrant violators of those principles, especially (a), (e), and (g).
I agree, and they should be called to account for those violations, but you have to have standing to do that I would think.
TTT
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I like the heritage coin much better
Brillliant
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Mark!
Step away from the keyboard.
Cleansing breath. Thrice. ! ! !
Call your sponsor.
The buyer was drunk alright he thought it was a quarter!!
Interesting, the OP started this thread to discuss a buyer who purchase a coin thru the BIN option on eBay.
Instead of discussing either:
1) his response to the customer, and the way that he approached the transaction, and comments;
or
2) the options that you (as a seller) would have done.
It has turned into a discussion about his prices.
I have seem MANY listings on eBay that I laughed at the prices, but if the seller wants to sell for a particular price, high or low, that is his option.
You may not like the OP's quality/prices/terms whatever, but you have to agree [I think] that the discussion has veered way off course from the original intent of the thread.
Or perhaps not.
PS: I don't know the OP, never bought coins from him/her and never heard of them before this.
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