2015 W Native American Enhanced $1 Double Edge Lettering?
beem2000
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Need some help here. I have a 2015 W Native American Enhanced $1 that has a double star stamped on the edge. I have sent this coin in for grading under the variety category to receive the Double Edge Lettering variety, however, I received a response that there is no variety designation for this coin, and the coin was just graded as is without any mention of the double star stamped on the edge.
Here is a pic of the edge of the coin:
Any idea why PCGS won't give it the double edge lettering grade?
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I don't know anything about these. Is it a recognized variety? (Their response implies that it is not).
The edge lettering on the Sacs is incused. This has a strike through look to it to me.
Searching through PCGS Coin Facts, they have recognized it in the past : http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/530164
I've also seen it graded that way on other coins as well: http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/506690
That's not doubled edge lettering - that would have all letters duplicated.
I haven't stayed up on prez buck errors lately, but this might be an overlapped letter error (I dont remember if thats the correct term), or a dropped grease fill error. Or simply the edge of one of these dollars smashed into the edge of this coin, and would thus be post-strike damage.
Agreed with what some have said. Dbl edge lettering is not what you have, which us why they did not recognize it. You could submit it as an error and see what they say, but not sure it is worth it. Not sure what you have. Good eye for finding it but unless you can prove and establish it as a new variety, I am not sure you can try for anything other than a one-off error, and I am not sure it is worth the effort.
PCGS Lingo: Double Edge Lettering-Overlap
Is normally a coin sent through the edge lettering device a second time with the lettering in the same direction. It also includes doubling of any design element due to slippage of the edge lettering device, such as a P mintmark over the 9 of the date.
I sent this coin to ANACS and got: a double star on the edge
http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/506690 Only one star over P.
Look at the star to the left of the red box. There seems to be a partial image of a star up and to the left of that one. Please check and rephotograph if necessary.
As I look at the photo again, what is that under the right side of the red box? Were the EU dollars struck with the proof segmented collar, or sent through the edge roller like business strikes? That deep line might be signs of the slippage.
could this be a result of a collar strike doubling?
I do not know what to call that anomaly... however, the line on the coin to the right of the red box, could indicate that the collar was not closed (not even sure that is possible) or something .... most likely the 'or something'...
Cheers, RickO
Raised line between the stars shows where two of three segments met in the collar die used for producing this Enhanced Uncirculated 2015-W Native American dollar coin.
Those lines appear on every coin - they are identical. I just can't figure out how the double star happened
If the coin was struck in a three-part segmented collar like the Proofs, as this coin appears to be because of that raised line between the segments, then the doubling on the one (and possibly two) star(s) could be ejection doubling caused by the coin hitting the raised star(s) on the collar after it was struck. If so it would be a striking error rather than a variety.
I have sent this coin in for grading under the error category , however, I received a response that there is no error designation for this coin.
Perhaps they considered the error to be too minor to mention. Many coins have "machine doubling" on one side or the other that is not considered significant. The same could be said about mechanical doubling on the edge.
The coin would have to be examined in-hand to determine
exactly what you have, and what caused it.
I've seen many photos of these types of anomalies that
turn out to be simply contact with another coin, from
being in a bag, etc.
If it were a 'slipped edge' error, there would be other
edge elements that were also doubled.
sorry I can't be of more help - if you go to a FUN, ANA,
Mid-Winter ANA, or any Long Beach Show, I'd be glad
to view it at my table and give you an opinion.
Thank you for the insight. I will gladly come by your table at a Long Beach show to have you look at it.
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