Many of these aren't as safe as you think. Look up some of the popular gun safes on YouTube even with enhanced security features. It is amusing to watch them pushed over and popped open with a crowbar in under 15 minutes.
I would buy a quality jeweler's safe, free of carpet and glue, that has at least a TL-30 rating and preferably a TL-30x6 rating.
You can buy good quality safes used but remember these suckers weigh several thousand pounds so you may be limited where you can put it. Gun safes and small safes from home stores are pretty useless. Also buy a larger safe than you think you need you will be surprised at how quickly it fills up
You can get cheapo locking "fire boxes" for records that you can keep....IN... a gun safe.
You can put a small packet of dessicant in the little box if you like.
Don't get an electronic keypad. I've seen them fail. Not to mention if North Korea detonates an EMP device and it affects us, all electronic devices will be useless.
At that point you'll need your coins for bartering.
Also- make sure you bolt it to the floor, wall studs, or both!
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A good gun safe will do ONLY if you have a good alarm system and a police response time of less than 5 min.
A large gun safe is safe for about 10 mins from a pro and much longer from a common criminal.
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If you get one, do it right. Get a TL-15 or TL-30 (tool resistant safe). They are 1200+ lbs and you should bolt it to the floor too. The "gun" safes you can get at Cabelas or another store like that is more of a locker than anything. It is good to keep kids and family members out of, but anyone with a pry bar and a hammer can get in in 2 minutes.
Here is a good video explaining what makes a strong safe, skip to 1:55:
Here is what I use to store some of my coins and then 90%. I love the history behind it and it is in good condition for its age. I just think it is cool to have a safe that is the age of some of the coins it holds (some newer some older).
There are two considerations.....a safe place to store your coins away from theft is important. But also a safe place to store your coins away from harmful elements like moisture and gasses that tarnish your coins. I had a little safe that somehow trapped moisture and I discovered mold on the corner of a box. Humidity control is vital. Then I've had a silver baseball coin stolen right out of it's box..... Grrrrrrrr. Temperature control, locks, wood vs metal, felt, moisture control, alarms, guards, inventory control.....all to be considered....good luck storing them. Maybe they need to be in a glass case like in a museum!!!!
Remember the robbery in Columbus, Ohio where they tied a cable to the homeowners safe and jerked it out through the wall.
Any comments about heavy modular safes that can be assembled in your basement?
I have a small "stackon" gun safe with a electronic keypad, mainly to keep the gun off my desk when the grandkids are here. The batteries died with the gun in the safe and I couldn't remember where I put the backup keys. I found a YouTube video where a eight year old kid opened my exact model with a letter opener in about 5 seconds!
That peeked my interest and I found several more videos showing popular so called secure gun safes being popped open with crow bars in no time.
Check it out and you'll probably end up keeping your coins in a bank safe deposit box (or the cloths hamper).
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
That is a good safe video posted above. Excellent advice. With a good safe (as recommended) the thieves will walk away - empty handed. Yes, bolt them to the floor.... preferably cement as in the basement - the bolt can be securely embedded in the cement and then extends into the safe floor.. I recommend four bolts. Those video's on Youtube are cheap safes... and yes, they can be opened quickly... This cannot be done with a top tier safe. Cheers, RickO
Also if you get a "real safe"( tl/tr 30).. make sure the floor is good and re-enforced concrete- I've seen these thick safes actually sink into a floor over time from the weight.
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a good quality gun safe works.
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Many of these aren't as safe as you think. Look up some of the popular gun safes on YouTube even with enhanced security features. It is amusing to watch them pushed over and popped open with a crowbar in under 15 minutes.
I would buy a quality jeweler's safe, free of carpet and glue, that has at least a TL-30 rating and preferably a TL-30x6 rating.
You can buy good quality safes used but remember these suckers weigh several thousand pounds so you may be limited where you can put it. Gun safes and small safes from home stores are pretty useless. Also buy a larger safe than you think you need you will be surprised at how quickly it fills up
You can get cheapo locking "fire boxes" for records that you can keep....IN... a gun safe.
You can put a small packet of dessicant in the little box if you like.
Your BEST defense is a GOOD alarm system.
I've had "safe guys" move such heavy safes SO quickly that you see how weight isn't the main thing.
Get a gun safe and keep the coins in the clothes hamper.
We had some burglars work all night on a safe in the auto parts store and the cash was in a box of distributor parts every night.
Coors there's always the bank.
....duh....
but...well, you know...........
Good luck!
I use a motion detector light on the back porch. Safe and sound.
Don't get an electronic keypad. I've seen them fail. Not to mention if North Korea detonates an EMP device and it affects us, all electronic devices will be useless.
At that point you'll need your coins for bartering.
Also- make sure you bolt it to the floor, wall studs, or both!
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
A good gun safe will do ONLY if you have a good alarm system and a police response time of less than 5 min.
A large gun safe is safe for about 10 mins from a pro and much longer from a common criminal.
Thanks all...will think about it. I have a 30 year old Sears safe...it's a crappy safe but is a good humidor.
If you get one, do it right. Get a TL-15 or TL-30 (tool resistant safe). They are 1200+ lbs and you should bolt it to the floor too. The "gun" safes you can get at Cabelas or another store like that is more of a locker than anything. It is good to keep kids and family members out of, but anyone with a pry bar and a hammer can get in in 2 minutes.
Here is a good video explaining what makes a strong safe, skip to 1:55:
Here is what I use to store some of my coins and then 90%. I love the history behind it and it is in good condition for its age. I just think it is cool to have a safe that is the age of some of the coins it holds (some newer some older).
There are two considerations.....a safe place to store your coins away from theft is important. But also a safe place to store your coins away from harmful elements like moisture and gasses that tarnish your coins. I had a little safe that somehow trapped moisture and I discovered mold on the corner of a box. Humidity control is vital. Then I've had a silver baseball coin stolen right out of it's box..... Grrrrrrrr. Temperature control, locks, wood vs metal, felt, moisture control, alarms, guards, inventory control.....all to be considered....good luck storing them. Maybe they need to be in a glass case like in a museum!!!!
Remember the robbery in Columbus, Ohio where they tied a cable to the homeowners safe and jerked it out through the wall.
Any comments about heavy modular safes that can be assembled in your basement?
I have a small "stackon" gun safe with a electronic keypad, mainly to keep the gun off my desk when the grandkids are here. The batteries died with the gun in the safe and I couldn't remember where I put the backup keys. I found a YouTube video where a eight year old kid opened my exact model with a letter opener in about 5 seconds!
That peeked my interest and I found several more videos showing popular so called secure gun safes being popped open with crow bars in no time.
Check it out and you'll probably end up keeping your coins in a bank safe deposit box (or the cloths hamper).
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
I read one reply I liked, the best storage would be a walk in safe!!!!! Put that on your list for the next house you buy!!!
Rather than a safe, if you own your home consider a "hidden room" or such...lot's of Utubes on these.
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That is a good safe video posted above. Excellent advice. With a good safe (as recommended) the thieves will walk away - empty handed. Yes, bolt them to the floor.... preferably cement as in the basement - the bolt can be securely embedded in the cement and then extends into the safe floor.. I recommend four bolts. Those video's on Youtube are cheap safes... and yes, they can be opened quickly... This cannot be done with a top tier safe. Cheers, RickO
Also if you get a "real safe"( tl/tr 30).. make sure the floor is good and re-enforced concrete- I've seen these thick safes actually sink into a floor over time from the weight.