Updated with new photos: 1804 half cent....real or fake?
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Well I got it. The obverse seems to match the spiked chin variety, but the reverse matches no known 1804 reverse. So, either I have a new variety, a collectible electrotype (which would be fine with me), or a modern junk fake. What's the verdict, gang?
Seller's photos:
Mine:
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
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The coin looks real to me although you side angle photos don't help with the authentication. The variety is Cohen 12, Crosslet 4, Stemless, a fairly common variety. The has to be cheap to be a bargain because it is corroded with some mild cleaning added in. The It looks like EF sharpness, corroded.
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It's a counterfeit! My mistake!!!
Eh, I paid $60, but what do I know, I'm wet behind the ears when it comes to EAC. Probably not such a great deal in retrospect.
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
You won't get hurt for $60. For several hundred ... that's another story.
I would not buy it. That is not the rev. of C-12.
R.I.P. Bear
I'm not that well versed in early copper but it does not look authentic to me. First red flag for me is the rims.
Spiked head, stemless. That should tell us something.
Ed. S.
(EJS)
My spidey senses went off after about 1 sec. of viewing the pic.
Doesn't look good.
Is there a spiked chin there? In any event, something looks off.
You guys are right. I think it is a counterfeit. There is a mini spiked chin there, and the spiked chin varieties all had stems on the wreath. The other marks that show in field of the spiked chin variety are missing.
In "the good old days" crisp devices were an indicator that a coin was genuine. Now the crooks are able to duplicate that.
Bumping this for more comments.
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
COUNTERFEIT! Lumps, bumps, unusual die polish, weakness, wavy fields. I'll bet the weight is "off" also.
NOT Real
As others have indicated... spike chin variety, but no stems reverse. Also, the rims screamed counterfeit to me as well.
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Wait, your gonna need to get another one.
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No good
That coin has the look of a counterfeit to me.
Far to strongly struck around the bust, but the actual details inside the bust are weak.