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Part 2 of "Why did this sell so low"

https://coins.ha.com/itm/bust-half-dimes/half-dimes/1829-h10c-improperly-cleaned-ngc-details-unc-lm-61-ngc-census-2-411-pcgs-population-9-284-mintage-1-230-000/a/1160-7771.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

I cannot say I follow half dimes all that much but a uncirculated (albeit cleaned) of what is still listed as an R.7 seems odd. I know the half dime remarriages can be a bit weird so was this maybe not a "true" 6.1 hence its low bid?

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2017 12:59PM

    If that were an "normal" 1829 half dime, $ 345 seems like a lot of money for that piece given the cleaning problem. The Gray Sheet bid is only $200.

    So far as the rarity goes, the Logan McCloskey book says it's an R-5, not an R-7. Rarity ratings tend to drop over time after collectors start to check out previously unattributed pieces. I'm not a half dime die variety collector, but my opinion is this do not sell that "cheap."

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what should it have sold for?

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the reason why it sold so low is that there is what appears to be a die chip in the N in UNITED. A die chip in the N of UNITED means to me (per the Logan-McCloskey book, Federal Half Dimes 1792-1837) that the coin is actually an 1829 LM-6.2.

    Had it been an 1829 LM-6.1, as NGC thought it was, then $345 would indeed have been way too low, even for a cleaned coin. As far as I know, there is just one bona fide example known, which is the plate coin from the book. I have had a few people hand me alleged 1829 LM-6.1 half dimes, but every time I handed them back a for-sure 6.2. I even bought a specialist-sold 1829 LM-6.1 off of ebay that I later returned. That pesky die chip in the N made them all LM-6.2.

    When the JRCS called it an R-7 in the 2015 census, that was a conservative estimate of rarity. Based on KNOWN examples, it is R-8.

    Anyone got a real 6.1? I'd like to see it (and buy it!)

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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Barndog. Had same conclusion but figured I would let him post first.

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