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Will this Newp cross?

stevereecystevereecy Posts: 205 ✭✭✭
edited July 19, 2017 6:34PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Hi all, I just received this Newp today. It was my pig in a poke because the photograph from the auction was pretty dark but it look like it had good toning. I'd really like to get it into a PCGS slab. What do you think is the best way to do that? I think it might get a grade bump but I'm also concerned if I don't send it in the original slab they might rejected due to suspicious color. This old slab is my evidence that it is not suspicious color. What would you recommend and what do you think the outcome will be?

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the look of the coin!

    Looks a little splotchy but like the color and color progression look right. I think you can tell best, since you have it in hand. If you're worried about it being called AT, send it in as a cross at any numerical grade or ask a dealer for their opinion.

  • stevereecystevereecy Posts: 205 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2017 7:04PM

    Thanks. I think I got really lucky. You're saying I can specify not to crack it out unless it hits...say MS62? That's a great idea!. Does that cost more than just a standard grading? After looking at it close, it almost appears there is some kind of strike through material on his cheek. Edit: I was thinking it was a shot MS63, but I found a couple of cuts on his neck...so probably not. I hate to crack it out of an old style slab, but the slab is beat up and I think it will go higher. Also, I can't stack it (too small).

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't have been a lot of money, very nice strike on the reverse. Hard to make out details, but overall appearance quite pleasant and think a chance of upgrade. How is the strike of hair, ear, mustache, brow ridge, etc.? Hairlines?

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The color looks fine, but I must tell you that simply because it is in an old slab does not mean anything to PCGS regarding its color. The decision on toning is up to what PCGS believes at that time, not what another company thought a decade ago. Regardless, I doubt there would be an issue with the toning.

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  • stevereecystevereecy Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    @7Jaguars said:
    Can't have been a lot of money, very nice strike on the reverse. Hard to make out details, but overall appearance quite pleasant and think a chance of upgrade. How is the strike of hair, ear, mustache, brow ridge, etc.? Hairlines?

    Strike seems strong on all except for the front/top of mustache. I've never seen one in person, but I'd guess on balance its an average strike. Yep, it wasn't that expensive, 1902 is a common date also , but it feels like it's well worth the money compared to lightside stuff. I think if I can get it to upgrade even a point in a PCGS slab it will be worth the time and cost of grading.

    TomB: Thanks for the caution and the assessment.

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevereecy said:
    Thanks. I think I got really lucky. You're saying I can specify not to crack it out unless it hits...say MS62? That's a great idea!. Does that cost more than just a standard grading? After looking at it close, it almost appears there is some kind of strike through material on his cheek. Edit: I was thinking it was a shot MS63, but I found a couple of cuts on his neck...so probably not. I hate to crack it out of an old style slab, but the slab is beat up and I think it will go higher. Also, I can't stack it (too small).

    Yes. Cross at "any" numerical grade means PCGS will not crack the coin out of the holder unless it will straight grade and be assigned a straight grade number. Otherwise they will charge you the fee to review it and will send it back in the ANACS holder. You do take the risk of it being downgraded from a 61, but it seems like you're more worried about it being deemed AT than anything.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin... If it were just about any other date, I would consider crossing. I am not convinced it is economically worth doing. There is something charming about the older ANACS slab. Looks better than 61 but may not get to 63

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