@blu62vette said:
When I sell consignments I want the money out of my account as fast as possible. I hear way to often of people taking months to pay a consignment sale, it is free money for the dealer (for the most part) so no idea what they cant pay the funds out.
Couldn't agree more. There's no legitimate reason to not pass the money along within a day or two after It's received and buyer has seen the coin(s) in hand.
@blu62vette said:
When I sell consignments I want the money out of my account as fast as possible. I hear way to often of people taking months to pay a consignment sale, it is free money for the dealer (for the most part) so no idea what they cant pay the funds out.
Couldn't agree more. There's no legitimate reason to not pass the money along within a day or two after It's received and buyer has seen the coin(s) in hand.
I cannot say that either simply because eBay previously forced a 14-day return privilege (and now it may be longer) on top rated sellers. There are people that will abuse the return privilege and wait until day 13 or 14 to return a coin. In that case, I think it is perfectly legitimate to hold the funds until feedback is left or until the expiration of the return privilege to ensure that the account truly is settled. As soon as it settles, I agree that there should be no long delays.
I cannot say that either simply because eBay previously forced a 14-day return privilege (and now it may be longer) on top rated sellers. There are people that will abuse the return privilege and wait until day 13 or 14 to return a coin. In that case, I think it is perfectly legitimate to hold the funds until feedback is left or until the expiration of the return privilege to ensure that the account truly is settled. As soon as it settles, I agree that there should be no long delays.
You can't go by feedback left , I'm lucky if one in five buyers ever leaves feedback lately.
@afford said:
I am troubled reading all this and all the excuses of why it could have happened. But what troubles me the most is all the consignors that lost their money/coins.
The child porn bothers me the most. It totally sucks that he fell apart the way he did for his consigners...but that kinda pales with the other. I suppose a consigner could file theft charges, which would leave the new owners holding the bag on stolen property. Not sure if that really applies as the consigners sent him things....BUT, the truly evil is the one he got arrested for.
Unless it was an incredibly twisted revenge plot where someone hacked his system and made sure it was actively downloading even as the police arrived (pretty sure there are some malware/extortion things that do that), and that is also despicable.
@blu62vette said:
When I sell consignments I want the money out of my account as fast as possible. I hear way to often of people taking months to pay a consignment sale, it is free money for the dealer (for the most part) so no idea what they cant pay the funds out.
Couldn't agree more. There's no legitimate reason to not pass the money along within a day or two after It's received and buyer has seen the coin(s) in hand.
I cannot say that either simply because eBay previously forced a 14-day return privilege (and now it may be longer) on top rated sellers. There are people that will abuse the return privilege and wait until day 13 or 14 to return a coin. In that case, I think it is perfectly legitimate to hold the funds until feedback is left or until the expiration of the return privilege to ensure that the account truly is settled. As soon as it settles, I agree that there should be no long delays.
I can agree with that. Wasn't thinking about eBay as I rarely sell consigned coins there.
I think it is perfectly legitimate to hold the funds until feedback is left or until the expiration of the return privilege to ensure that the account truly is settled.
Believe it or not there are folks out there that leave positive feedback and you think ,"OK-done deal". But then they proceed to do a return.
You have to remember that the docket is inverted order, most recent first. So while originally he was ruled to have the means to hire a lawyer, docket item 40 (the double negative) is most recent:
40 06/08/2017 CODI COURT OVERRULED DEFENDANT'S NON-INDIGENCY, APPOINTED PUBLIC DEFENDER
38 06/08/2017 MNFD PD BRIAN MASSEY WAS PRESENT FOR MOTION
29 05/19/2017 PDPD ASSIGN ATTORNEY - NAME: NOT INDIGENT
28 05/19/2017 AFOI AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENCY NOT APPROVED FEE - AMT: $50.00
10 05/19/2017 MNFD DEFENDANT INDIGENT, APPOINT PUBLIC DEFENDER
Either he couldn't come up with the retainer or nobody would take the case.
-----Burton ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
@afford said:
I am troubled reading all this and all the excuses of why it could have happened. But what troubles me the most is all the consignors that lost their money/coins.
I'm a lot more troubled by the damage done to many young lives. While unfortunate, the money and coins are a -distant- second.
-----Burton ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
If I sell something on consignment, the check to the consignor goes out the day I hear from the client that the coin is sold. I do not want to sit on the funds of someone else.
@afford said:
I am troubled reading all this and all the excuses of why it could have happened. But what troubles me the most is all the consignors that lost their money/coins.
I'm a lot more troubled by the damage done to many young lives. While unfortunate, the money and coins are a -distant- second.
AMEN to that. If you stop and think about how this twisted kid porn garbage is produced and distributed it really turns the stomach. This is one of the most damaging forms of abuse imaginable. This evil is orders of magnitude more deplorable than white-collar crime issues.
I cannot stand it when good folks spend good money on a coin; money that's hard to come by after bills and such, only to have someone lie to them and stiff them. I really hate it.
@CascadeChris said:
What is he charged with? I must have missed the discussion. Is it relating to his not paying out on consignments?
Possession of child porn
Wow. Ok, didn't expect that. Innocent until proven guilty but wow. Not good. It's like Breen all over again.
There was some being downloaded onto his computer while he was being arrested.
Well he's still innocent until proven guilty but if that's the case it doesn't look good. Sick stuff. I wonder if drugs were found too and he just wasn't charged with it in lieu of the higher charges. If he had a meth addiction it would explain a lot with this and with suddenly not paying consignors.
Meth? Did you see what his weight was at the time of arrest? Most meth heads don't maintain that robust of a figure.
@CascadeChris said:
What is he charged with? I must have missed the discussion. Is it relating to his not paying out on consignments?
Possession of child porn
Wow. Ok, didn't expect that. Innocent until proven guilty but wow. Not good. It's like Breen all over again.
There was some being downloaded onto his computer while he was being arrested.
Well he's still innocent until proven guilty but if that's the case it doesn't look good. Sick stuff. I wonder if drugs were found too and he just wasn't charged with it in lieu of the higher charges. If he had a meth addiction it would explain a lot with this and with suddenly not paying consignors.
Meth? Did you see what his weight was at the time of arrest? Most meth heads don't maintain that robust of a figure.
Yes. A friend emailed me about that. I never met him and didn't know he was obese. It was just a thought. It seems he's probably just a typical creep and thief if the charges prove to be true.
RESP = respondent
NOTC DISC/DMD = Notice of discovery and demand (a formal notice that the accused receive all the current information the prosecution has).
NOTC CLAIM ALIBI/DMD = The defense is claiming an alibi (can't be guilty because the accused was elsewhere when the crime was committed).
INT = Interrogatory?
ISS SUBP DUC TEC = issue a "subpoena duces tecum" (a subpoena requiring the recipient to appear before the court and produce documents and/or evidence for use in a hearing).
WTF? If you have to ask that...Duh? Perhaps it might add to this thread that popped up to the top of the page "out of nowhere it seems" writing about a person all of the posters seem to know and SPECULATING about drugs, etc. Perhaps my question may be more relevant than you think. Then what he posted on the NGC forum is brought in as the reason he was fired (FROM WHERE).
I'm missing something. I never heard of the guy (no big deal - I often feel like a "shut-in" - that's why the wheelchair). Obviously, he was not fired from his own company (comic books/eBay seller) and just the fact that you all are even interested in the guy says something. So, became curious. Was he working for a coin company? Was he working for a TPGS in a high position - enough to know another employee was being watched? I've been there and done exactly that from both sides in my short professional career of forty-seven years.
So @Bochiman, please ignore my question or answer it if you can and spare me the nonsense!
Have you read the thread? I do. I think it may be part of "his" story - part of which is being posted here. So either you don't know the answer to my simple question or you also chose to deflect and post a bunch of meaningless symbols.
Have you read the thread? I do. I think it may be part of "his" story - part of which is being posted here. So either you don't know the answer to my simple question or you also chose to deflect and post a bunch of meaningless symbols.
dude or dudess, only a "newbie" or one w/2k+ posts sees them as "meaningless symbols."
Anyone care or want to pm him/her their meaning...
oops...I didn't check that you have 1K + disagreements.
WTF? If you have to ask that...Duh? Perhaps it might add to this thread that popped up to the top of the page "out of nowhere it seems" writing about a person all of the posters seem to know and SPECULATING about drugs, etc. Perhaps my question may be more relevant than you think. Then what he posted on the NGC forum is brought in as the reason he was fired (FROM WHERE).
I'm missing something. I never heard of the guy (no big deal - I often feel like a "shut-in" - that's why the wheelchair). Obviously, he was not fired from his own company (comic books/eBay seller) and just the fact that you all are even interested in the guy says something. So, became curious. Was he working for a coin company? Was he working for a TPGS in a high position - enough to know another employee was being watched? I've been there and done exactly that from both sides in my short professional career of forty-seven years.
So @Bochiman, please ignore my question or answer it if you can and spare me the nonsense!
Yep, you are missing something. Missing a need to go back that far as it isn't relevant. It doesn't add to the thread.
Read the thread. (past tense)
Know the answer. (past tense)
There is no relevance to where his prior role was nor with the stated reason for leaving that position.
None.
Only ones who would care/ask are those that are just busybodies. It isn't pertinent to the charges he is currently facing. It isn't pertinent to the theft/deception involving his own business of selling for people.
Just because you don't know years worth of history and "all the posters seem to know" doesn't mean going back years and years will change anything, nor will it add to the narrative.
@TomB said:
If I sell something on consignment, the check to the consignor goes out the day I hear from the client that the coin is sold. I do not want to sit on the funds of someone else.
A problem doing that on eBay, with their liberal return policies... or if PAYPAL gives the funds to someone else...
In no way would I defend any of the things Shane has been accused and evidently charged with. as should anyone committing such offenses be punished as the court/jury sees fit. I just wish to say that in spring of 2015, Shane sold my entire unc Mercury dime collection(over 60 coins) and I received all the funds promised with a very slight fee. i also bought a camera from him in this same time period, all without the slightest delay in funds nor merchandise. I had previously bought several coins from his ebay site previously with no issues. I just felt a need to give this information to you. It is such a sad situation that any forum member or anyone would stoop to such terrible acts. Thanks for listening.
Jim
If he ripped off the wrong person locally, the other stuff could be a set-up. I have lots of cops, etc. in the family, and from what I hear you do not want to be on the wrong side of the vice enforcement community, many of them will do anything to get a conviction. I could tell a few specifics but won't. I will say about 20 years ago, there were two cases here involving a mayor and a broke nobody...one of those two got probation the other got 20 years. The charges were identical.
Hey guys,no thanks for your help. I really do admire your "above-it-all" or holier-than-thou" attitude to my simple question. Over the years, I have found many coin dealers to be a bunch of gossipy little EDIT. That's why there really are not many secrets out there. Sooooo, I found out who Mr. Canup is and much of his story. One or two calls on Monday and I'll have the answer to my original question and the rest of his story.
Good for you!
I am sure it will thrill you and be well worth all your time as you breached the darkest secrets of the netherverse to well to grope out that info.
It's too bad the authorities aren't more aggressive in going after the producers of the sick smut which is as bad as violent films. Or maybe the cable providers could block dangerous content, or those addicted to sick damaging smut could have some type of net nanny mandated.
There is so much speculation in this thread. I'm not familiar with Shane, but the man in a world of hurt now. It's the courts job to judge him and not us (unless we are on the jury). Because he was (is) one of us forum members, let's follow the proceedings and not hang him before he's convicted. Just my opinion.
@pmac said:
There is so much speculation in this thread. I'm not familiar with Shane, but the man in a world of hurt now. It's the courts job to judge him and not us (unless we are on the jury). Because he was (is) one of us forum members, let's follow the proceedings and not hang him before he's convicted. Just my opinion.
If you have been around these boards for a while, you would know the inhabitants throw the first stone and converse like a bunch of gossipy housewives.
This give us all a black-eye, in the community of numismatics. As if man's demise ,or road to destruction/extinction isn't bad enough. All hope is fleeting ( similar to the signature of 291Fifth). Stay good-natured, friends.
@KollectorKing said: "Anyone noticed a few of the recent posters on this thread have been CU members only since 2016...hmmm"
Yeah, hummmm. That's why some of us newbies never heard of the guy in this thread. Nevertheless, many of us who became interested after being rebuked by several LONG-TIME CU members are now satisfied...hmmmm. Hopefully , the next time I have a question about the posts on a thread, I'll get some answers from the ladies or anyone else.
Anyone posting the alleged crimes, would be breaking a handful of rules and banned from these forums. But go ahead if you want to do a 'public service announcement'.
@davewesen said: "Insider2, you should read this thread." and then he linked to the forum rules which I've read several times in the past.
@davewesen continued: "Anyone posting the alleged crimes, would be breaking a handful of rules and banned from these forums. But go ahead if you want to do a 'public service announcement'."
Perhaps you should read this discussion again from page #1, MYOB, and read the rules for yourself.
I asked a simple question. Where was Shane fired from as his post on the NGC site was linked by someone here? That's all. No gossip, no opinions, no rule breaking, nothing! I never heard of the guy. All I got for my question were big, fat nothing replies similar to your post.
BTW, seems to me that many other members posting here (who you may have mistaken for me) were warned to be careful. According to your statement above, each of them have possibly broken the rules and were warned.
PS Notice I still have not posted anything that I may have found out.
While he was source of numerous coins I retailed both online and at shows I never consigned anything to him. I feel sorry for the people who lost money with his failed business.
Failure of numismatic businesses is common especially considering current market conditions.
I for one am not going to pass any judgment on Shane.....I believe that is what the legal system is for. I lost touch with him over the last few years as I dealt with some family issues, and what I am reading is out of character for the person that I felt I knew. The man must be going through hell, deserved or not, and I can't help but worrying about him.
JMHO
112 12/06/2017 MNFD PD PARKER, LANISE WAS PRESENT FOR DOCKET SOUNDING
MNFD is the "Docket Code" (scroll up to see the headings). Unfortunately there isn't a glossary, and the codes are court specific. They have DKSN for Docket Sounding, PRES indicating defendant was present, MNF for Minutes, NOTC for Notice.
If I had to guess, Minutes Note For Defendant??? Just because of things like this:
101 10/11/2017 MNFD ALL CHARGES: DEFENDANT RETURNED TO CUSTODY.
100 10/11/2017 MNFD COURT GRANTED DEFENSE MOTION TO CONTINUE
Which says "COURT GRANTED DEFENSE MOTION TO CONTINUE ALL CHARGES: DEFENDANT RETURNED TO CUSTODY."
But only a guess...
-----Burton ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
Comments
Couldn't agree more. There's no legitimate reason to not pass the money along within a day or two after It's received and buyer has seen the coin(s) in hand.
I cannot say that either simply because eBay previously forced a 14-day return privilege (and now it may be longer) on top rated sellers. There are people that will abuse the return privilege and wait until day 13 or 14 to return a coin. In that case, I think it is perfectly legitimate to hold the funds until feedback is left or until the expiration of the return privilege to ensure that the account truly is settled. As soon as it settles, I agree that there should be no long delays.
You can't go by feedback left , I'm lucky if one in five buyers ever leaves feedback lately.
The child porn bothers me the most. It totally sucks that he fell apart the way he did for his consigners...but that kinda pales with the other. I suppose a consigner could file theft charges, which would leave the new owners holding the bag on stolen property. Not sure if that really applies as the consigners sent him things....BUT, the truly evil is the one he got arrested for.
Unless it was an incredibly twisted revenge plot where someone hacked his system and made sure it was actively downloading even as the police arrived (pretty sure there are some malware/extortion things that do that), and that is also despicable.
I can agree with that. Wasn't thinking about eBay as I rarely sell consigned coins there.
Believe it or not there are folks out there that leave positive feedback and you think ,"OK-done deal". But then they proceed to do a return.
@Walkerfan, @cameonut2011 and @georgiacop50
You have to remember that the docket is inverted order, most recent first. So while originally he was ruled to have the means to hire a lawyer, docket item 40 (the double negative) is most recent:
40 06/08/2017 CODI COURT OVERRULED DEFENDANT'S NON-INDIGENCY, APPOINTED PUBLIC DEFENDER
38 06/08/2017 MNFD PD BRIAN MASSEY WAS PRESENT FOR MOTION
29 05/19/2017 PDPD ASSIGN ATTORNEY - NAME: NOT INDIGENT
28 05/19/2017 AFOI AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENCY NOT APPROVED FEE - AMT: $50.00
10 05/19/2017 MNFD DEFENDANT INDIGENT, APPOINT PUBLIC DEFENDER
Either he couldn't come up with the retainer or nobody would take the case.
ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
I'm a lot more troubled by the damage done to many young lives. While unfortunate, the money and coins are a -distant- second.
ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
like blue62vette I want to close the deal asap!
If I sell something on consignment, the check to the consignor goes out the day I hear from the client that the coin is sold. I do not want to sit on the funds of someone else.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
AMEN to that. If you stop and think about how this twisted kid porn garbage is produced and distributed it really turns the stomach. This is one of the most damaging forms of abuse imaginable. This evil is orders of magnitude more deplorable than white-collar crime issues.
I cannot stand it when good folks spend good money on a coin; money that's hard to come by after bills and such, only to have someone lie to them and stiff them. I really hate it.
Meth? Did you see what his weight was at the time of arrest? Most meth heads don't maintain that robust of a figure.
Yes. A friend emailed me about that. I never met him and didn't know he was obese. It was just a thought. It seems he's probably just a typical creep and thief if the charges prove to be true.
There was court action on 8/15. Any one familiar with trial shorthand that can decipher what the following means?
"08/15/2017 RNDN RESP NOTC DISC/DMD NOTC CLAIM ALIBI/DMD INT ISS SUBP DUC TEC"
I can guess some of that.
Lance.
RESP = respondent
NOTC DISC/DMD = Notice of discovery and demand (a formal notice that the accused receive all the current information the prosecution has).
NOTC CLAIM ALIBI/DMD = The defense is claiming an alibi (can't be guilty because the accused was elsewhere when the crime was committed).
INT = Interrogatory?
ISS SUBP DUC TEC = issue a "subpoena duces tecum" (a subpoena requiring the recipient to appear before the court and produce documents and/or evidence for use in a hearing).
Where did Shane work when he was fired?
I truly hope he is innocent even though things do not look very good.
http://listings.findthecompany.com/l/8595550/Kryptonitecomics-And-Coins-Inc
Websites like that are notoriously inaccurate and/or out of date. I wouldn't conclude anything based on it.
Why does that matter?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
@Bochiman said: "Why does that matter?"
WTF? If you have to ask that...Duh? Perhaps it might add to this thread that popped up to the top of the page "out of nowhere it seems" writing about a person all of the posters seem to know and SPECULATING about drugs, etc. Perhaps my question may be more relevant than you think. Then what he posted on the NGC forum is brought in as the reason he was fired (FROM WHERE).
I'm missing something. I never heard of the guy (no big deal - I often feel like a "shut-in" - that's why the wheelchair). Obviously, he was not fired from his own company (comic books/eBay seller) and just the fact that you all are even interested in the guy says something. So, became curious. Was he working for a coin company? Was he working for a TPGS in a high position - enough to know another employee was being watched? I've been there and done exactly that from both sides in my short professional career of forty-seven years.
So @Bochiman, please ignore my question or answer it if you can and spare me the nonsense!
& who the #%%^<€£¥₩%%%##!!!! cares??
once a con always a con....
@KollectorKing wished to know who cares?"
Have you read the thread? I do. I think it may be part of "his" story - part of which is being posted here. So either you don't know the answer to my simple question or you also chose to deflect and post a bunch of meaningless symbols.![:( :(](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/frowning.png)
dude or dudess, only a "newbie" or one w/2k+ posts sees them as "meaningless symbols."
Anyone care or want to pm him/her their meaning...![B) B)](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/sunglasses.png)
oops...I didn't check that you have 1K + disagreements.
Yep, you are missing something. Missing a need to go back that far as it isn't relevant. It doesn't add to the thread.
Read the thread. (past tense)
Know the answer. (past tense)
There is no relevance to where his prior role was nor with the stated reason for leaving that position.
None.
Only ones who would care/ask are those that are just busybodies. It isn't pertinent to the charges he is currently facing. It isn't pertinent to the theft/deception involving his own business of selling for people.
Just because you don't know years worth of history and "all the posters seem to know" doesn't mean going back years and years will change anything, nor will it add to the narrative.
Pretty simple.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
A problem doing that on eBay, with their liberal return policies... or if PAYPAL gives the funds to someone else...
In no way would I defend any of the things Shane has been accused and evidently charged with. as should anyone committing such offenses be punished as the court/jury sees fit. I just wish to say that in spring of 2015, Shane sold my entire unc Mercury dime collection(over 60 coins) and I received all the funds promised with a very slight fee. i also bought a camera from him in this same time period, all without the slightest delay in funds nor merchandise. I had previously bought several coins from his ebay site previously with no issues. I just felt a need to give this information to you. It is such a sad situation that any forum member or anyone would stoop to such terrible acts. Thanks for listening.
Jim
If he ripped off the wrong person locally, the other stuff could be a set-up. I have lots of cops, etc. in the family, and from what I hear you do not want to be on the wrong side of the vice enforcement community, many of them will do anything to get a conviction. I could tell a few specifics but won't. I will say about 20 years ago, there were two cases here involving a mayor and a broke nobody...one of those two got probation the other got 20 years. The charges were identical.
@KollectorKing
@Bochiman
Hey guys,no thanks for your help. I really do admire your "above-it-all" or holier-than-thou" attitude to my simple question. Over the years, I have found many coin dealers to be a bunch of gossipy little EDIT. That's why there really are not many secrets out there. Sooooo, I found out who Mr. Canup is and much of his story. One or two calls on Monday and I'll have the answer to my original question and the rest of his story.![:smiley: :smiley:](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/smiley.png)
Good for you!
I am sure it will thrill you and be well worth all your time as you breached the darkest secrets of the netherverse to well to grope out that info.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
It's too bad the authorities aren't more aggressive in going after the producers of the sick smut which is as bad as violent films. Or maybe the cable providers could block dangerous content, or those addicted to sick damaging smut could have some type of net nanny mandated.
There is so much speculation in this thread. I'm not familiar with Shane, but the man in a world of hurt now. It's the courts job to judge him and not us (unless we are on the jury). Because he was (is) one of us forum members, let's follow the proceedings and not hang him before he's convicted. Just my opinion.
If you have been around these boards for a while, you would know the inhabitants throw the first stone and converse like a bunch of gossipy housewives.
This give us all a black-eye, in the community of numismatics. As if man's demise ,or road to destruction/extinction isn't bad enough. All hope is fleeting ( similar to the signature of 291Fifth). Stay good-natured, friends.
anyone noticed a few of the recent posters on this thread have been CU members only since 2016...hmmm
@KollectorKing said: "Anyone noticed a few of the recent posters on this thread have been CU members only since 2016...hmmm"
Yeah, hummmm. That's why some of us newbies never heard of the guy in this thread. Nevertheless, many of us who became interested after being rebuked by several LONG-TIME CU members are now satisfied...hmmmm. Hopefully
, the next time I have a question
about the posts on a thread, I'll get some answers from the ladies
or anyone else. ![:smiley: :smiley:](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/smiley.png)
Insider2, you should read this thread ->
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/755959/posting-rules-updated-2-12-11#latest
Anyone posting the alleged crimes, would be breaking a handful of rules and banned from these forums. But go ahead if you want to do a 'public service announcement'.
@davewesen said: "Insider2, you should read this thread." and then he linked to the forum rules which I've read several times in the past.
@davewesen continued: "Anyone posting the alleged crimes, would be breaking a handful of rules and banned from these forums. But go ahead if you want to do a 'public service announcement'."
Perhaps you should read this discussion again from page #1, MYOB, and read the rules for yourself.
I asked a simple question. Where was Shane fired from as his post on the NGC site was linked by someone here? That's all. No gossip, no opinions, no rule breaking, nothing! I never heard of the guy. All I got for my question were big, fat nothing replies similar to your post.
BTW, seems to me that many other members posting here (who you may have mistaken for me) were warned to be careful. According to your statement above, each of them have possibly broken the rules and were warned.
PS Notice I still have not posted anything that I may have found out.![:wink: :wink:](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/wink.png)
While he was source of numerous coins I retailed both online and at shows I never consigned anything to him. I feel sorry for the people who lost money with his failed business.
Failure of numismatic businesses is common especially considering current market conditions.
I for one am not going to pass any judgment on Shane.....I believe that is what the legal system is for. I lost touch with him over the last few years as I dealt with some family issues, and what I am reading is out of character for the person that I felt I knew. The man must be going through hell, deserved or not, and I can't help but worrying about him.
JMHO
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"115 12/06/2017 MNFD DEFENDANT REJECTS STATE'S PLEA OFFER."
Hmmmmm
For those of us that don't deal with the criminal justice system, could you please translate?
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
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Which part?
Sounds like the State offered him a deal (reduced charges and/or lesser sentence) if he pleads guilty and he rejected it.
Now, he will roll the dice in court......hope he has a good defense.
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MNFD: I don't have a clue
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Also note:
MNFD is the "Docket Code" (scroll up to see the headings). Unfortunately there isn't a glossary, and the codes are court specific. They have DKSN for Docket Sounding, PRES indicating defendant was present, MNF for Minutes, NOTC for Notice.
If I had to guess, Minutes Note For Defendant??? Just because of things like this:
Which says "COURT GRANTED DEFENSE MOTION TO CONTINUE ALL CHARGES: DEFENDANT RETURNED TO CUSTODY."
But only a guess...
ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
I think it is minutes for docket sounding.