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[PCGS Update] What do you think of these Toned Roosevelt NEWPS?

KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 1, 2017 4:32PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Edit: New In-Hand Pictures Posted Below

I purchased the '64 a couple of months ago, and still haven't got around to taking good images of it yet and the '64-D should be arriving within the next couple of days. These are the seller's pictures.

Would like to hear your grade opinions as well, I'm thinking about submitting the '64-D mainly for a TrueView.




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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First coin is quite attractive.
    Hard to guess a grade--depends on the luster. The coin from the pics appears to be free of marks, and bands are close.

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 64-D might be the nicest I have ever seen. Looks like it might go FB too. Its tough from those pics, but I will guess:

    1964-D MS67FB
    1964 MS66

    I would have them both graded with trueviews for sure.

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 1964-D is awesome! Congratulations!

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1964-D is gorgeous, but not so much for the 1964.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not a fan of carbon spots myself. Unfortunately I do have a couple with small spots I had to learn to not see cause of the rest of the coin is so beautiful.
    I like that 64-D the most. Quite lovely.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like them!

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1964 D MS 66+ FB
    1964 P MS 63

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CommemKing said:
    That 64-D might be the nicest I have ever seen. Looks like it might go FB too. Its tough from those pics, but I will guess:

    1964-D MS67FB
    1964 MS66

    I would have them both graded with trueviews for sure.

    Thanks! I don't collect many Roosevelts but loved the '64-D when I first saw it. My initial thought was a 66 and possibly FB, looking forward to seeing it in hand.

    @BillJones said:
    The 1964-D is very attractive, but the 1964 has a couple of "carbon spots" which I personally don't like regareless of how the rest of the coin looks.

    Thanks Bill, and I appreciate the honesty on the '64. The carbon spots are unfortunate, but for the price I paid for that coin I can live with them.

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    StoogeStooge Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The '64-D is a dream. Nice coin and should grade 7FB easily. Wanna sell it?


    Later, Paul.
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stooge said:
    The '64-D is a dream. Nice coin and should grade 7FB easily. Wanna sell it?

    I already told him to mail it to me in another thread. I called dibs! ;)

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MANOFCOINS said:
    Love 64-d should grade high 67 maybe 67+.
    Can those carbon spots be removed on the 64?

    Doesn't look like it.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2017 5:05PM

    @coinsarefun said:
    I love the 1964-D, beautiful

    Thanks, it seems to be a crowd pleaser.

    @MANOFCOINS said:
    Love 64-d should grade high 67 maybe 67+.
    Can those carbon spots be removed on the 64?

    They probably could be removed, but I wouldn't want to risk damaging the coin or toning.

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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    64d has the color folks will kill for. 66 or 66+

    cant tell about the band where it meets the right field

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really like the 64-D. I was watching that coin thinking it was a RPM.....then passed deciding it wasn't.

    Nice pick-up.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I really like the 64-D. I was watching that coin thinking it was a RPM.....then passed deciding it wasn't.

    Nice pick-up.

    Thanks!

    Where had you seen the coin before?

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both are pretty coins for sure. :)

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kyle said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I really like the 64-D. I was watching that coin thinking it was a RPM.....then passed deciding it wasn't.

    Nice pick-up.

    Thanks!

    Where had you seen the coin before?

    The one I saw was on Ebay.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These are common date coins which can be found in roll quantity - hope u got these near melt. The one w spot is a dog.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    These are common date coins which can be found in roll quantity - hope u got these near melt. The one w spot is a dog.

    Yep, they're common date coins. It's the toning and grade of the '64-D that really makes it uncommon. Please point me in the direction of someone selling similar looking coins at melt, I'm a buyer!

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2017 12:38PM

    The 64-D is a $7 coin (gem BU per NN coin market).

    If u think it's a 67 send it in - the proof wb in the pudding when u get it graded otherwise it's just speculation.

    Where 67 seems to be $44 per CF good luck in finding one who will pay that for this most common issue readily available in BU roll quantities around melt.

    Frankly I would prefer a Gem BU example untoned with super luster.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just got the '64-D in hand today so I took some pictures of it and the '64.

    Besides cropping to get the file size down a bit, these pictures are straight off the camera. No editing.




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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2017 4:45PM

    @Cougar1978 said:
    The 64-D is a $7 coin (gem BU per NN coin market).

    If u think it's a 67 send it in - the proof wb in the pudding when u get it graded otherwise it's just speculation.

    Where 67 seems to be $44 per CF good luck in finding one who will pay that for this most common issue readily available in BU roll quantities around melt.

    Frankly I would prefer a Gem BU example untoned with super luster.

    I'm sending the coin out to a member of the forum to have graded, I'll update the thread with the grade again when it's back from PCGS. To be honest, the grade isn't a huge concern for me, a 67 would be nice sure but the main reason I want it slabbed is for the TrueView.

    I'm sure there are a few people on here that would gladly pay $44 for the coin raw. Never mind a 67. I think we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still think the '64-D is at least MS67FB. Awesome coin. There still isn't anything popping out to make be lower my grade guess.
    I'd still say MS66FB. There are a few carbon spots on the obverse, but they aren't too distracting. I would not attempt to remove them. You will only f up the tone on the coin. They probably wont come off anyway.

    Send them out to PCGS, get your trueviews, and bask in the beauty of those coins!

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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is darn near impossible to buy true BU silver coin rolls at melt.
    Maybe but together with a slider or two in the roll.
    Original bank wrapped rolls from the federal reserve banks NOT!

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:
    Gorgeous. I love that 64-D!

    Cougar is just a hater.

    Thanks! I don't think the '64 is too shabby either. It photographs beautifully.

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    These are common date coins which can be found in roll quantity - hope u got these near melt. The one w spot is a dog.

    The spot doesn't hurt it that bad.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coins.

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are beauties!! The kind of coins I like to hunt for. :)

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    rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭

    Is that a die break on the 64d or a line? That said, I like it. The 64 is meh.

    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2017 8:41AM

    @rainbowroosie said:
    Is that a die break on the 64d or a line? That said, I like it. The 64 is meh.

    Near the rim at 4:00 on the obverse?

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    rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm confused. I called the 64 a 64 d. Line is on the lesser coin.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rainbowroosie said:
    I'm confused. I called the 64 a 64 d. Line is on the lesser coin.

    No worries. Yep, that's a die break next to the carbon spot.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had my camera out yesterday photographing a few coins and figured I would try taking some more pics of the '64-D, this time just I flooded the coin with light in order to get the color to really pop. It hasn't gone to PCGS yet, but I'm hoping to have it submitted in September.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kyle said:
    I had my camera out yesterday photographing a few coins and figured I would try taking some more pics of the '64-D, this time just I flooded the coin with light in order to get the color to really pop. It hasn't gone to PCGS yet, but I'm hoping to have it submitted in September.

    That is a very pretty dime.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mannie gray said:

    That is a very pretty dime.

    Agreed, it's one of my favorite purchases this year.

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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 64 is nice but the 64D looks great. It looks like it would grade 66FB, too many hits and marks to grade higher.

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No reason to send the 64-D to PCGS in September when you can just send it to me now. I promise, it will have a nice home and I will take care of that pesky PCGS thing. :)

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    KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nicely done

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    RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    gorgeous coin

    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good eye!

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well done.But like your picture before that better.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @grip said:
    Well done.But like your picture before that better.

    Thanks! I wish the obverse had a bit more light, but they aren't bad. The color on the reverse looks great.

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    The 64-D is a $7 coin (gem BU per NN coin market).

    If u think it's a 67 send it in - the proof wb in the pudding when u get it graded otherwise it's just speculation.

    Where 67 seems to be $44 per CF good luck in finding one who will pay that for this most common issue readily available in BU roll quantities around melt.

    Frankly I would prefer a Gem BU example untoned with super luster.

    I will give the 44 right now!!!!

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 64-D is a $7 coin (gem BU per NN coin market). --- not so, it is now at least a $44 coin per PCGS price guide.

    If u think it's a 67 send it in - the proof wb in the pudding when u get it graded otherwise it's just speculation. --- done.

    Where 67 seems to be $44 per CF good luck in finding one who will pay that for this most common issue readily available in BU roll quantities around melt. --- done.

    Frankly I would prefer a Gem BU example untoned with super luster. --- that would be nice.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    well, congrats.

    but with grading fees you must be about even

    Frank

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