Neat new pick-up

TwoKopeiki

While being covered from head to toe in drywall dust from the renos in the new house, my phone happily chirped that I won something at the recent Aureo sale. The coin is a neat variety of the Mexico portrait 8 Reales I haven't seen before, nor read about in the catalogues. I sent a note to a few fellow collectors of the series to see what they think.

Seems to be an 1820 with a digit 1 showing under the 2. Possibly an overdate. Once I get it in-hand, I'll be able to see if there's any remains of the 9 under the 0.

The hunt for new undocumented varieties continues...

asheland

I never tire of seeing Mexican coins!
That's a cool example!

TwoKopeiki

Thanks @asheland .

Here's another possible new variety currently at PCGS. It looks like it might be a TH over HJ over-assayer. The same reverse die was listed as an over-assayer by Cayon about 5 years ago in one of their sales (first picture). What makes me doubtful is that there were quite a lot of the TH dies around as can be seen by all the discovered HJ over TH varieties as far as 1811. So why would they use a newer HJ die and recut it back into a TH? It's a neat coin either way and I think I was also able to match to an existing HJ reverse die, but we'll see what PCGS says.

Cayon

Comparison to mine

asheland

Very cool!

Boosibri

Cool

TwoKopeiki

PCGS deemed the 1809 to be a non-variety. [shakefist]

I'm yet to receive my Aureo win to confirm the overdate and It's been about 5 weeks.

TheRaven

Still nice coins

TwoKopeiki

@TheRaven

Thanks.

The 1820 is finally in and it does look like a 2 over 1. Neat - first one for me.

My photo equipment is still packed, but i got a decent shot of the date with my phone shooting through a loupe.

TwoKopeiki

Going back to that 1809 - I was checking Calbeto's "Compendio" to see if there was a photo of the Mexico 1811 8 Reales "small crown" variety and noticed that he had documented the 1809 variety above. What I thought was a "TH over HJ" is documented by Calbeto as "La T del Ensayador es J rectificada" or "T in the assayer initials is a re-cut J". I am still not convinced that's anything but die damage, but it's neat to see that Calbeto also thought there was something there.

Timbuk3

Sweet !!!