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Info needed on an old 10oz Bar

Has anyone ever seen one of these? Google has nothing and several big old pour collectors haven't ever seen one.

Mark Brown

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do not know it. Looks like one of the Hunt Brothers era wildcat bars.

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  • mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Do not know it. Looks like one of the Hunt Brothers era wildcat bars.

    Who are they?

    Mark Brown

    Hoard the keys
  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Do not know it. Looks like one of the Hunt Brothers era wildcat bars.

    Who are they?

    Google "Hunt brothers silver"

  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Do not know it. Looks like one of the Hunt Brothers era wildcat bars.

    Who are they?

    Wow! :o

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  • mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

    @piecesofme said:

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Do not know it. Looks like one of the Hunt Brothers era wildcat bars.

    Who are they?

    Wow! :o

    Why not just explain? I heard of the pizza guys lol

    Mark Brown

    Hoard the keys
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If no one has heard of them, then likely no collector interest, so melt or below would be a fair price. Cheers, RickO

  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    Spot - $2 minimum...

    keceph `anah
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would probably be bought at a considerable discount from spot. Unknown makers = low trust level.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @piecesofme said:

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Do not know it. Looks like one of the Hunt Brothers era wildcat bars.

    Who are they?

    Wow! :o

    Why not just explain? I heard of the pizza guys lol

    Why not just google the Hunt Brothers?

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • cmanbbcmanbb Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 3, 2017 7:11PM

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @piecesofme said:

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Do not know it. Looks like one of the Hunt Brothers era wildcat bars.

    Who are they?

    Wow! :o

    Why not just explain? I heard of the pizza guys lol

    Just for you @mrkbrown87

    Beginning in the early 1970s, Hunt and his brothers William Herbert and Lamar began accumulating large amounts of silver. By 1979, they had nearly cornered the global market.[8] In the last nine months of 1979, the brothers profited by an estimated $2 billion to $4 billion in silver speculation, with estimated silver holdings of 100 million troy ounces (3,100,000 kg).[9]

    Primarily because of the Hunt brothers' accumulation of the precious metal, prices of silver futures contracts and silver bullion rose from $11 an ounce in September 1979 to $50 an ounce in January 1980. Silver prices ultimately collapsed to below $11 an ounce two months later.[10] The largest single day drop in the price of silver occurred on "Silver Thursday."[2] In February 1985 the Hunt brothers were charged "with manipulating and attempting to manipulate the prices of silver futures contracts and silver bullion during 1979 and 1980" by the United States Commodity Futures Trading Commission.[2]

    In September 1988 the Hunt brothers filed for bankruptcy under Chapter 11 of the Federal Bankruptcy Code largely due to lawsuits incurred as a result of their silver speculation.[2]

    In 1989, in a settlement with the CFTC, Nelson Bunker Hunt was fined US$10 million and banned from trading in the commodity markets as a result of civil charges of conspiring to manipulate the silver market.[2] This fine was in addition to a multimillion-dollar settlement to pay back taxes, fines and interest to the Internal Revenue Service for the same period. His brother made a similar settlement.

  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    Welfare at its finest...

    keceph `anah
  • mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

    @rawteam1 said:
    Welfare at its finest...

    What do you mean by This?

    Mark Brown

    Hoard the keys
  • mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @piecesofme said:

    @mrkbrown87 said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Do not know it. Looks like one of the Hunt Brothers era wildcat bars.

    Who are they?

    Wow! :o

    Why not just explain? I heard of the pizza guys lol

    Why not just google the Hunt Brothers?

    I did later that evening. I was driving from Maryland to Louisiana so I couldn't at the moment.

    Mark Brown

    Hoard the keys
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    During the Hunt Brothers bubble, so much physical silver was being refined to meet the demand needed to honor contracts that the major refineries were backed up for months. Rarcoa in Chicago was air freighting the silver they bought to Switzerland to be refined.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In this void many "wildcat" refineries sprang up to melt silver and make bars. Exact fineness sometimes a bit off.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are collectible in the sense that everything is collectible, but demand is not high.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    In this void many "wildcat" refineries sprang up to melt silver and make bars. Exact fineness sometimes a bit off.

    Cool I love learning new stuff. I bought this for little over spot so I was just curious as to it's origin

    Mark Brown

    Hoard the keys
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