RARE NAZI Coins!!?!?!

NumismaticEmpire

Hello, I recently bought these two Nazi coins ..
And from what I know, they are rare.
But when I went to an idea of values I could not find much information ..
The only coin I found on eBay for Postdate was $ 150.
Can someone help me determine values?

5 reichsmark 1934G potsdam date.

10 reichspfennig 1936A

jmski52

The coins aren't rare, but they are indeed from the Third Reich. You can find comparable examples on ebay for a general price indicator. Welcome to the forum.

Coinstartled

This is the US coin forum. Germans lost the war.

NumismaticEmpire

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
This date in history, D-Day.

15$?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Germany-Third-Reich-5-Reichsmark-1934-G-Potsdam-w-Date-PCGS-MS-62-/152558729512?hash=item2385357928:g:yi4AAOSwHptY-1Ul

5/10$?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-GERMAN-Coin-10-REICHSPFENNIG-1936-A-BRASS-SWASTIKA-THIRD-REICH-3RD-Nazi-WW2-/302316118086?hash=item466371e046:g:8aEAAOSwAANY8AMg

Where do you see that prices?

NumismaticEmpire

@jmski52 said:
The coins aren't rare, but they are indeed from the Third Reich. You can find comparable examples on ebay for a general price indicator. Welcome to the forum.

Thank you.

TopographicOceans

They aren't rare, but are genuine.
Note that if you try to sell these on eBay, you cant ship them to Germany

2manycoins2fewfunds

If you are reading this......thank a teacher

If you are reading it in English thank a veteran.

abcde12345

Does pcgs grade nazi coins? If not, don't send them in.

Weiss

@NumismaticEmpire said:

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
This date in history, D-Day.

15$?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Germany-Third-Reich-5-Reichsmark-1934-G-Potsdam-w-Date-PCGS-MS-62-/152558729512?hash=item2385357928:g:yi4AAOSwHptY-1Ul

5/10$?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-GERMAN-Coin-10-REICHSPFENNIG-1936-A-BRASS-SWASTIKA-THIRD-REICH-3RD-Nazi-WW2-/302316118086?hash=item466371e046:g:8aEAAOSwAANY8AMg

Where do you see that prices?

The first piece you linked to is for a PCGS certified Mint State 62 (graded 62/70) coin. Coins graded 60 and above are technically "uncirculated" and are generally more desired by collectors. There is a wide gulf between your coin, which seems to be between 40 and 55 out of 70, and this certified 62/70.

The second piece may be somewhat valuable, in the $50 to $100 range, if it too were certified uncirculated. Certification takes money and time, and in the end PCGS or one of the other third party coin grading companies may find your coin is not uncirculated, and therefore worth only a few dollars.

These types of questions are welcome here. However, when people who are experienced collectors answer your question in a way you don't like, don't make the mistake that it is they who are wrong: It's you.

yosclimber

numista says the 1936A 10 Reichspfennig is rare:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2341.html
Ebay sold listings like what CoinsAndMoreCoins linked above show similar ones sold for
$39, $33 and a toned one for $5.68 (without shipping included).

The 1934G 5 Reichsmark is not rare - has a mintage of 2.3 million:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4690.html

But this thread should be in the World and Ancient Coins Forum.

CascadeChris

Funny you post this on the anniversary of D-Day. Was that intentional?

CascadeChris

@abcde12345 said:
Does pcgs grade nazi coins? If not, don't send them in.

Don't send them in because they aren't valuable enough to require grading or authentication.

rawteam1

$5 and $1 max... reality, now someone finds people paying to get in the circus that they think is sold out, well that's another story...oh, silvers up $7...

Hydrant

Interesting timing to your post. As far as I'm concerned every Nazi coin on the planet should be taken and shoved up the you-know- what of the jerk with the funny moustache, not to mention the entire Third Reich. My mother lost her beloved brother, Johnny, on this day during the invasion. He was a pilot. He was 26 years old. I have vivid childhood memories of my mother sitting up at night in the dark crying. One time I asked her, "Mom, why are you crying?" Her answer, "Johnny." All those boys, every last mother's son who fought their way onto those beaches that day was a HERO. Nazi coins. Who the hell cares?

1940coupe

I had a doubled date listed in world coins never found out value https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/980356/double-date-german-coin#latest A lot of GIs had these as mementos of there victory ! do you throw them out ?

You

@Hydrant said:
Interesting timing to your post. As far as I'm concerned every Nazi coin on the planet should be taken and shoved up the you-know- what of the jerk with the funny moustache, not to mention the entire Third Reich. My mother lost her beloved brother, Johnny, on this day during the invasion. He was a pilot. He was 26 years old. I have vivid childhood memories of my mother sitting up at night in the dark crying. One time I asked her, "Mom, why are you crying?" Her answer, "Johnny." All those boys, every last mother's son who fought their way onto those beaches that day was a HERO. Nazi coins. Who the hell cares?

Erasing history doesn't reverse it.

CascadeChris

@Hydrant said:
Interesting timing to your post. As far as I'm concerned every Nazi coin on the planet should be taken and shoved up the you-know- what of the jerk with the funny moustache, not to mention the entire Third Reich. My mother lost her beloved brother, Johnny, on this day during the invasion. He was a pilot. He was 26 years old. I have vivid childhood memories of my mother sitting up at night in the dark crying. One time I asked her, "Mom, why are you crying?" Her answer, "Johnny." All those boys, every last mother's son who fought their way onto those beaches that day was a HERO. Nazi coins. Who the hell cares?

Agreed. They all were hero's that deserve the respect of every American but as said before erasing history is never a good idea.

On a side note. I've wondered how those ISIS coins will be treated after they are defeated and in the decades to come. I personally wouldn't touch them with a 50ft pole and probably never will but I have been curios how they will been viewed 50yrs+ from now.

mustangmanbob

Without any political commentary, soldiers FOREVER have taken "booty" from defeated enemies, be it weapons, coins, uniforms, etc. The soldiers doing the "asset reassignment" don't have a problem with the politics of taking things that the previous owners no longer have a need for.

I have souvenirs that have come to me from both sides of the family, Nazi and Japanese, and have a few of my own. I was a Ranger in the Army and have shrapnel still in my neck and back, so that was my "purchase price" of the stuff that I own.

ricko

I have some large, silver German coins... all pre-nazi era... that have some significant value... also, in a bag in one of my cabinets, I have a couple of minor nazi era coins..no value... also a nazi medal acquired by my Father from a friend who came back from the war. No real value there either. Cheers, RickO

NumismaticEmpire

@yosclimber said:
numista says the 1936A 10 Reichspfennig is rare:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2341.html
Ebay sold listings like what CoinsAndMoreCoins linked above show similar ones sold for
$39, $33 and a toned one for $5.68 (without shipping included).

The 1934G 5 Reichsmark is not rare - has a mintage of 2.3 million:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4690.html

But this thread should be in the World and Ancient Coins Forum.

The 1934G 5 Reichsmark its rare.. The postdate.

NumismaticEmpire

I am not a nazy.. Im Portugues!!! Hate the nazis, but i collect coins.. From all countrys.

NumismaticEmpire

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
The first one has hammer prices on ebay for 15 bucks and less.

The people looking for 50, 150, 175 are likely dreaming.

The second one I don't believe is rare or very valuable.

I believe 5 to 10 bucks tops.

The second one appears to be a better grade then the silver first one.

In the Numista they say its a rare coin

Manorcourtman

Common tasteless coins.

AUandAG

I understand collectors that collect Nazi coins/memorabilia but I'm not one. I do have a couple of swastika's but they are US Indian related. I do have a medal that was given to a "boy scout equivalent" in pre third Reich that also has the swastika. It's a medal for veterinary science (dogs, cats, pigs and such). Think today's 4-H club members.
bob

BIGAL2749

I believe display of the swastika and coins with swastika are not legal to have in Germany

Jimnight

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AUandAG

The Swastika has been around for centuries if not millennia. Germany's 3rd Reich just adopted the symbol. US Indian tribes used it and it meant good luck. Other societies used it or something extremely similar and all I've seen supported the idea of "good". Such a shame that an evil society adopted a cool Good Luck symbol. Kinda like the rainbow became associated with an individual group today. I'll always associate the rainbow with good luck and the Irish and a pot of gold but today's kids see it differently. Such a shame.
bob

WillieBoyd2

Don't worry about it.

yosclimber

@NumismaticEmpire said:

@yosclimber said:
numista says the 1936A 10 Reichspfennig is rare:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2341.html
Ebay sold listings like what CoinsAndMoreCoins linked above show similar ones sold for
$39, $33 and a toned one for $5.68 (without shipping included).

The 1934G 5 Reichsmark is not rare - has a mintage of 2.3 million:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4690.html

But this thread should be in the World and Ancient Coins Forum.

The 1934G 5 Reichsmark its rare.. The postdate.

I think I understand what you are saying.
The reverse of your 1934G coin has "21. März 1933" around the church.
So the mintage is 244,000 and the correct link is:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10415.html

A mintage of 244,000 is still not low enough to be considered a rare coin by US numismatic standards,
but it's 1/10 of the mintage for the coin I linked before.
The Sheldon rarity scale defines "rare" as 75 or fewer surviving specimens. Normally a mintage of 244,000 will yield many more than 75 surviving specimens.
https://pcgs.com/books/silver-dollars/Chapter02-005.aspx

As CoinsAndMoreCoins stated, these have recently sold on ebay for:
$12.63 $14.99 $10.50 $19.99
so that should answer the value question (if the grades are similar to yours).
They also appear to be in plentiful supply. But "rare" might mean something different to you than to me.

neildrobertson

@BIGAL2749 said:
I believe display of the swastika and coins with swastika are not legal to have in Germany

It is legal to have Third Reich coins in Germany. There are some regulations around the appropriate display and use of swastikas, but it's not illegal for historic purposes. Numismatics generally falls under the category of historical purposes.

I am a German con collector and a portion of my collection includes coins from the Third Reich. I collect them for historical reasons, because the Third Reich and WWII are major parts of German and European history. You don't have to agree with it to collect or study it.

CyndieChildress

Welcome to the forum.

neildrobertson

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
What is the silver coin in question worth in your opinion?

The 1934G 5 reichsmark with the date is actually a tougher coin as far as Third Reich coins go. I am not super familiar with this series, but they are generally harder to find in AU/MS condition than the later Hindenburg issues.

The coin has some good luster an appears to be AU, . That would throw it in the Vorzgulich category. An optimistic person could possibly put it in the low end of VZ/ST category, which makes it a good example for this date/type. There aren't any sold auctions on ebay.com or ebay.de for this date type that are actually this nice. I would guess that full retail value is ~$100 dollars and ebay/auction is closer to $40-60 dollars. There is a lot of eBay history of decidedly worse examples selling in the 25-35 dollar range.

logger7

I didn't realize that ebay permitted the sale of those. I had a large group of later date silver ones, ended up losing money getting a small premium from someone at a show who specialized in them.

asheland

Kkathyl

nice coins, I have about 1,000 World coins and have bought a few online in auction to see what market will pay.

World coins forum would provide more info.

I received mine and they called them Russian coins, some call the Austrian coins. But thank you for the share I love to see what other have. And the comments

Meltdown

I've picked a few up over the years. I like the circulated look on this one.

TwoKopeiki

I did Nazi this post taking off the way it did.

NumismaticEmpire

@Meltdown said:
I've picked a few up over the years. I like the circulated look on this one.

Love it!

Coinstartled

@You said:

@Hydrant said:
Interesting timing to your post. As far as I'm concerned every Nazi coin on the planet should be taken and shoved up the you-know- what of the jerk with the funny moustache, not to mention the entire Third Reich. My mother lost her beloved brother, Johnny, on this day during the invasion. He was a pilot. He was 26 years old. I have vivid childhood memories of my mother sitting up at night in the dark crying. One time I asked her, "Mom, why are you crying?" Her answer, "Johnny." All those boys, every last mother's son who fought their way onto those beaches that day was a HERO. Nazi coins. Who the hell cares?

Erasing history doesn't reverse it.

But at least consider the fate of those whose metal was stolen to create these coins.

JBK

I am guessing that the assumption was made that the OP was talking about generic Nazi coins, but the specific dates/variety here may be a factor in value.

I loved in Munich in the early 2000s, and a coin shop there was selling silver Hindenburg 2 marks for 2 euros and 5 marks for 5 euros. I got some but wish I had gotten more.

Coinstartled

@JBK said:
I am guessing that the assumption was made that the OP was talking about generic Nazi coins, but the specific dates/variety here may be a factor in value.

I loved in Munich in the early 2000s, and a coin shop there was selling silver Hindenburg 2 marks for 2 euros and 5 marks for 5 euros. I got some but wish I had gotten more.

More coins or more love?

JBK

@Coinstartled said:

@You said:

@Hydrant said:
Interesting timing to your post. As far as I'm concerned every Nazi coin on the planet should be taken and shoved up the you-know- what of the jerk with the funny moustache, not to mention the entire Third Reich. My mother lost her beloved brother, Johnny, on this day during the invasion. He was a pilot. He was 26 years old. I have vivid childhood memories of my mother sitting up at night in the dark crying. One time I asked her, "Mom, why are you crying?" Her answer, "Johnny." All those boys, every last mother's son who fought their way onto those beaches that day was a HERO. Nazi coins. Who the hell cares?

Erasing history doesn't reverse it.

But at least consider the fate of those whose metal was stolen to create these coins.

I understand the sentiment, but as far as I know the Nazi coins most often seen (including silver and bronze/brass) were made before the Nazis stole any metal from anyone (except maybe some gold, but there are no Nazi gold coins).

Coinstartled

@JBK said:

@Coinstartled said:

@You said:

@Hydrant said:
Interesting timing to your post. As far as I'm concerned every Nazi coin on the planet should be taken and shoved up the you-know- what of the jerk with the funny moustache, not to mention the entire Third Reich. My mother lost her beloved brother, Johnny, on this day during the invasion. He was a pilot. He was 26 years old. I have vivid childhood memories of my mother sitting up at night in the dark crying. One time I asked her, "Mom, why are you crying?" Her answer, "Johnny." All those boys, every last mother's son who fought their way onto those beaches that day was a HERO. Nazi coins. Who the hell cares?

Erasing history doesn't reverse it.

But at least consider the fate of those whose metal was stolen to create these coins.

I understand the sentiment, but as far as I know the Nazi coins most often seen (including silver and bronze/brass) were made before the Nazis stole any metal from anyone (except maybe some gold, but there are no Nazi gold coins).

You are assuming that many of the coins were not predated.

JBK

@Coinstartled said:

@JBK said:

@Coinstartled said:

@You said:

@Hydrant said:
Interesting timing to your post. As far as I'm concerned every Nazi coin on the planet should be taken and shoved up the you-know- what of the jerk with the funny moustache, not to mention the entire Third Reich. My mother lost her beloved brother, Johnny, on this day during the invasion. He was a pilot. He was 26 years old. I have vivid childhood memories of my mother sitting up at night in the dark crying. One time I asked her, "Mom, why are you crying?" Her answer, "Johnny." All those boys, every last mother's son who fought their way onto those beaches that day was a HERO. Nazi coins. Who the hell cares?

Erasing history doesn't reverse it.

But at least consider the fate of those whose metal was stolen to create these coins.

I understand the sentiment, but as far as I know the Nazi coins most often seen (including silver and bronze/brass) were made before the Nazis stole any metal from anyone (except maybe some gold, but there are no Nazi gold coins).

You are assuming that many of the coins were not predated.

You might very well be correct, but I have never heard any suggestion that coins were predated or have any inking as to why that would be done. During the war years they turned to a lot of zinc for coins, as silver and copper were driven from circulation (and presumably copper was needed for the war effort, as was the case here as well).

SeattleSlammer

@2manycoins2fewfunds said:
If you are reading this......thank a teacher

If you are reading it in English thank a veteran.