Selling this rare piece from my father in-law's collection to aid in his retirement.

morgansforever

Seems I' ve heard this before. Any possibility the seller is unaware? As soon as I saw the insert I knew without a doubt.
Ran the barcode to find an image of the real one.
ebay.com/itm/1893-S-Morgan-Dollar-XF-40-Rare-Key-Date-/182598001215?

https://coins.ha.com/itm/morgan-dollars/1893-s-1-xf40-pcgs/a/1151-6095.s?hdnJumpToLot=1x=0&y=0

AUandAG

Even with seller's pic it is easy to see that they are not the same coin.

will report.
bob

morgansforever

I contacted the seller, was nice about it, just calling it as I see it. The insert screamed at me, as soon as I laid eyes on it.

abcde12345

Why does the second one looked cleaned? I prefer the first one over the second one.

Walkerfan

Yes, that insert looks very wrong to me.

abcde12345

Might just be the angle of the coin and the somewhat poor lighting.

morgansforever

Any reporters out there? This one needs to go also, multiple reports seems to work best.

ebay.com/itm/1885-CC-E-Pluribus-Unum-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-1-90-Silver-Coin-FREE-SHIPPING-/162453431134?hash=item25d2faa35e:g:YUEAAOSwc-tY4BZQ

yosclimber

The barcode in the top photo does not match the genuine barcode.
A valid barcode is an exact representation of the digits in the coin_number.grade/serial_number .
Only the first few groups of bars match - until under the 6 in 7226.
In May 2012, we had a thread on this and I figured out how to read the entire bar code.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/855549/counterfeit-pcgs-slab-on-ebay-1916-d-merc/p2

[Edited at 10pm to add:]

I translated the bar code in the top photo - it is actually for an MS-64 version of the 1893-S, serial 13663977 .
pcgs.com/cert/13663977

kaz

Looks like it's been taken down.

Peace_dollar88

crooked suckers!

Pokermandude

The label on the first coin jumped out at me as 100% fake.

oih82w8

The font is wrong on the first one...looks kinda squished.

ArizonaRareCoins

Good work morgansforever. Do you have the eBay user name of this crook? It is important to report this to PCGS and also to other eBay members so we can watch out for his future counterfeit holders. Ebay, unfortunately, no longer NARU's members for selling counterfeits.

blu62vette

@yosclimber said:
The barcode in the top photo does not match the genuine barcode.
A valid barcode is an exact representation of the digits in the coin_number.grade/serial_number .
Only the first few groups of bars match - until under the 6 in 7226.
In May 2012, we had a thread on this and I figured out how to read the entire bar code.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/855549/counterfeit-pcgs-slab-on-ebay-1916-d-merc/p2

[Edited at 10pm to add:]

I translated the bar code in the top photo - it is actually for an MS-64 version of the 1893-S, serial 13663977 .
pcgs.com/cert/13663977

Thanks for the link, that 64 is amazing!

ricko

Small time crooks working on their degree in fraud.... Cheers, RickO

Jimnight

To many crooks out there breeding

PTVETTER

I believe this is one of the most informative threads I have seen in a while.

morgansforever

Both the 93S and 85CC have been terminated, thanks Todd for extracting the bar code data.

yosclimber

@morgansforever said:
Both the 93S and 85CC have been terminated,

Good work.

thanks Todd for extracting the bar code data.

Actually I did that.

morgansforever

@yosclimber said:

@morgansforever said:
Both the 93S and 85CC have been terminated,

Good work.

thanks Todd for extracting the bar code data.

Actually I did that.

That's correct, excellent detective work yosclimber.

bestday

some great eyes here on the forum .. congrats

DRUNNER

Thank you to the Forum eyes . . .

I do not worry about Morgans now . . have finished my set long ago, so I have no dog in the fight . . . . .but I am always amazed at the expertise here and the willingness to share and develop trust.

Bravo . .

Drunner

mr1931S

Too much criminal activity on ebay for me. I have said so long to ebay because of this.Sad.