If you have the funds, I guess it doesn't matter. Some people go to Vegas and dump 10s of thousands of dollars. This guy did it in the comfort of his home. Awesome to see a 52 pack ripped though. It looks legit. You could tell he was nervous as hell.
Geez, just cut the side seal of the GAI holder after cutting the flip off. The way he cut that 52 pack out, he may have damaged those corners pulling the pack out.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Hopefully, that lot (with the gum) will not resurface as a "born again" 52 wax pack for sale..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
The original seller mentions that the pack would not cross to PSA. I'm curious if that meant PSA deemed it tampered with or if he meant they would grade it lower than the GAI 6.5.
@Arsenal83 said:
The original seller mentions that the pack would not cross to PSA. I'm curious if that meant PSA deemed it tampered with or if he meant they would grade it lower than the GAI 6.5.
The listing description, which seems intentionally ambiguous to me, seems to imply the former, though he attempts to temper that by stating the pack was purchased "from a well known unopened collector." He also probably didn't want to cut the pack out of the holder to submit it to PSA, which is usually recommended by Steve to confirm authenticity, especially for a pack of this magnitude. Tough to tell for sure by simply watching a video.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@Arsenal83 said:
Agreed. I wonder if Steve or Reed could chime in on this pack now that it's been opened.
A couple of things that would indicate that the pack was authentic is that all 5 cards out of the pack were similarly cut with same corner ding indicating the pack had likely been dropped or dinged at some point. Also the wrapper around the gum inside the pack would be very difficult for a resealer to obtain.
Perhaps Jmoran is familiar with sequence of cards off the sheet to confirm if cards were correct.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@Arsenal83 said:
Agreed, I'm just wondering why it didn't cross. What did Steve see, if and, when it was reviewed.
Scott (aka dropthepuck20, the seller of the pack on ebay) had this pack for many years and took it with him from show to show along with the rest of his pack inventory. I held the pack in hand at least once, probably a couple times, most recently around 2-3 years ago and he and I were discussing it. IIRC he said Steve wouldn't cross it because of the back seal--I think he didn't like the way it looked. I don't think the seal was popped though but the reason it wouldn't cross had something to do with the seal. Was still a beautiful, clean, great looking pack though with great eye appeal that I thought about buying for a moment or two while I had it in hand. Needless to say if I win the one in ML I will not be opening it!
@vols1 said:
what series was the pack from? It had to be the last series to include Mantle right?
First series. All the cards are in the 1-80 number range. At least that and the fact that the backs aren't different colors (red and black) lend some provenance.
@vols1 said:
what series was the pack from? It had to be the last series to include Mantle right?
First series. All the cards are in the 1-80 number range. At least that and the fact that the backs aren't different colors (red and black) lend some provenance.
Good point about the backs being consistent, too.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@Arsenal83 said:
Agreed, I'm just wondering why it didn't cross. What did Steve see, if and, when it was reviewed.
Scott (aka dropthepuck20, the seller of the pack on ebay) had this pack for many years and took it with him from show to show along with the rest of his pack inventory. I held the pack in hand at least once, probably a couple times, most recently around 2-3 years ago and he and I were discussing it. IIRC he said Steve wouldn't cross it because of the back seal--I think he didn't like the way it looked. I don't think the seal was popped though but the reason it wouldn't cross had something to do with the seal. Was still a beautiful, clean, great looking pack though with great eye appeal that I thought about buying for a moment or two while I had it in hand. Needless to say if I win the one in ML I will not be opening it!
I just found this thread again. Thanks for the info. Interesting about the seal. I wonder if someone had carefully peeled back the seal to peak inside without necessarily opening it.
Steve sometimes will not OK the cross to PSA due to being unable to see the corner folds and seam thru the GAI holder. I had (have) a '57 pack that he would not cross. I got the OK from the seller (Ken M) to have Steve bust it and make a determination. He did and it now sits in a PSA-7 holder.
couple of comments on this rip--agree he shld've used the blue gloves--at least his fingernails are clean--and it is too F'gn boring w/o voices-music-a dog barking--whatever--livin' the next one up!
the way the seal and the folds opened it looked legit to me. but man that guy was shaking which made it a little tough. the gum stain on the back card looked good and the cards looked very consistent. seems like it was legit to me. I too had also seen this pack in hand a few times and it looked ok to me when I viewed it in hand.
We have a board member here with a pack and 2 Mantles - and a complete raw set. It's something to behold.
Never "getting around" to picking up #311 when it was more in my ball park is a major regret.
Also, not picking up a pack from Mark Murphy when he bought a bunch of sweet 8 pack cellos from a little old lady.
This was around 1994 or so? He had some packs in SCD for 1700 bucks - would look great in my collection - not to open - not to sell - just good ole "pride" of ownership I guess.
Comments
Is that legit?
looks like he took a $6k pack and turned it into a whopping $457
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-Baseball-Wax-Pack-opened-wrapper-and-pack-contents-gum-cards-/322488633965?hash=item4b15d20a6d:g:Om8AAOSw5UZY-Axw&nma=true&si=tLqy2ZxkHYYrsObKuMIdGpUpuow%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Enjoyed watching that. If I ever won the lottery I would free a heck of a lot of cardboard.
The only 311 to be found here is the duration of the video!
First thing I noticed.
Donato
Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set
Successful transactions: Shrub68 (Jim), MWallace (Mike)
If you have the funds, I guess it doesn't matter. Some people go to Vegas and dump 10s of thousands of dollars. This guy did it in the comfort of his home. Awesome to see a 52 pack ripped though. It looks legit. You could tell he was nervous as hell.
Thanks for sharing!
My hands were shaking too
When packs were 3-4k it was tempting, nowadays the juice aint worth the squeeze IMO
I like this guy:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ya3m0P4TbN8
Geez, just cut the side seal of the GAI holder after cutting the flip off. The way he cut that 52 pack out, he may have damaged those corners pulling the pack out.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Hopefully, that lot (with the gum) will not resurface as a "born again" 52 wax pack for sale..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I'll put money that it does.
Wow. That took some serious stones.
Here's the original eBay listing (same GAI cert) - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-TOPPS-BASEBALL-WAX-PACK-GAI-GRADED-6-5-/252835431889?hash=item3ade2a85d1:g:HLAAAOSwdGFY28Fa&nma=true&si=ptz2WwRTKFTOQpx1xv4o7wpYWx8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
The original seller mentions that the pack would not cross to PSA. I'm curious if that meant PSA deemed it tampered with or if he meant they would grade it lower than the GAI 6.5.
The listing description, which seems intentionally ambiguous to me, seems to imply the former, though he attempts to temper that by stating the pack was purchased "from a well known unopened collector." He also probably didn't want to cut the pack out of the holder to submit it to PSA, which is usually recommended by Steve to confirm authenticity, especially for a pack of this magnitude. Tough to tell for sure by simply watching a video.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Agreed. I wonder if Steve or Reed could chime in on this pack now that it's been opened.
A couple of things that would indicate that the pack was authentic is that all 5 cards out of the pack were similarly cut with same corner ding indicating the pack had likely been dropped or dinged at some point. Also the wrapper around the gum inside the pack would be very difficult for a resealer to obtain.
Perhaps Jmoran is familiar with sequence of cards off the sheet to confirm if cards were correct.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I thought it looked 100% real when he opened it.
Agreed, I'm just wondering why it didn't cross. What did Steve see, if and, when it was reviewed.
gasp.. no gloves !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
he was shaking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
Scott (aka dropthepuck20, the seller of the pack on ebay) had this pack for many years and took it with him from show to show along with the rest of his pack inventory. I held the pack in hand at least once, probably a couple times, most recently around 2-3 years ago and he and I were discussing it. IIRC he said Steve wouldn't cross it because of the back seal--I think he didn't like the way it looked. I don't think the seal was popped though but the reason it wouldn't cross had something to do with the seal. Was still a beautiful, clean, great looking pack though with great eye appeal that I thought about buying for a moment or two while I had it in hand. Needless to say if I win the one in ML I will not be opening it!
what series was the pack from? It had to be the last series to include Mantle right?
https://kennerstartinglineup.blogspot.com/
First series. All the cards are in the 1-80 number range. At least that and the fact that the backs aren't different colors (red and black) lend some provenance.
Good point about the backs being consistent, too.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I just found this thread again. Thanks for the info. Interesting about the seal. I wonder if someone had carefully peeled back the seal to peak inside without necessarily opening it.
Steve sometimes will not OK the cross to PSA due to being unable to see the corner folds and seam thru the GAI holder. I had (have) a '57 pack that he would not cross. I got the OK from the seller (Ken M) to have Steve bust it and make a determination. He did and it now sits in a PSA-7 holder.
couple of comments on this rip--agree he shld've used the blue gloves--at least his fingernails are clean--and it is too F'gn boring w/o voices-music-a dog barking--whatever--livin' the next one up!
If a Mantle was pulled from that pack what would it be worth on the open market?
the way the seal and the folds opened it looked legit to me. but man that guy was shaking which made it a little tough. the gum stain on the back card looked good and the cards looked very consistent. seems like it was legit to me. I too had also seen this pack in hand a few times and it looked ok to me when I viewed it in hand.
depends on how many dings it has
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
Gai 6.5 pack listed for 22.5k, group rip?
We have a board member here with a pack and 2 Mantles - and a complete raw set. It's something to behold.
Never "getting around" to picking up #311 when it was more in my ball park is a major regret.
Also, not picking up a pack from Mark Murphy when he bought a bunch of sweet 8 pack cellos from a little old lady.
This was around 1994 or so? He had some packs in SCD for 1700 bucks - would look great in my collection - not to open - not to sell - just good ole "pride" of ownership I guess.
Must be nice lol
all around collector of many fine things
Doesn't that same man have just a few other raw sets, like every single one Topps has produced...including many test sets and non-production releases
without creepy blue gloves and camo shorts, the video just falls flat.