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1920 Buffalo Nickel 40% oc on cent at auction

giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 14, 2017 6:20PM in U.S. Coin Forum

https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/1920-5c-buffalo-nickel-40-off-center-on-a-cent-planchet-ms64-brown-pcgs/a/1254-4194.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

Saw this one in error catalog around 1983 for 1,500'

Sold for 17,250 in 8/2004 and same in 8/2007. Surprised it sold for exact same price.

Not sold in auction 1/2015

auctions heritage

Very unique double error.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am always curious about such pieces.... I have to believe that most were created or smuggled out of the mint.... I know some may have come out in bags of coins... However, if I were a betting man (and I am), I would wager on the first option. Cheers, RickO

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that is a neat error! And I am with Ricko on the cause. I guess that means it is an "on purpose" coin instead of an "error" coin. :)

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,031 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing screams "purposefully created" to me. The Mint is like any other manufacturer. It's a nice error and I really like the chocolate surfaces!

  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭✭

    Price sold ****$12,337.50**** Nice 5K drop in 10 years. Guess unique errors are a tough sell to get back price paid.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN
    'Coined' a new numismatic term..........."on purpose coin" :smile:
    :smile::smile::smile:

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @giantsfan20 said:
    Price sold ****$12,337.50**** Nice 5K drop in 10 years. Guess unique errors are a tough sell to get back price paid.

    The market is down, but this particular coin was doubly punished for overexposure. In fact, I don't think it spent a single day off the market in the past decade. Sad, because it's a fantastic coin.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is a very neat coin.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A true off center error. It got out........no doubt because it was the same size as another regular nickel.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,007 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see no reason to suspect that this piece was created on purpose. We know that the Mints used hoppers to carry planchets and struck coins of multiple denominations. We know that a planchet smaller than the feed fingers it happens to end up in has a good chance of being improperly fed into the coining chamber. The collar marks and everything else about the strike are correct for an off-center strike. Give me one good reason to not like this coin as a legitimate error?
    TD

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 9, 2017 2:14AM

    1920 Is a common date for off center Buffalos. Agree with Cpt H that this is very possiable than say some of those "Fantasy Errors" coins struck over other coins etc 10 years apart

    All graded by NGC which allows for sale at high prices and legitmizes them as authentic without it sure would go for a small fraction of amount asked? Perhaps Fred Weinberg could chime in on this type of "error"

    Those are highly suspect as to how it actually happened.
    1970 Proof Quarter Washington Struck over Barber and Quarter struck over 1941 Canadian quarter. You can barely make it out the 1941 date the picture date was drawn in :/

    I have no idea how NGC got 1941 on coin unless under a very high magnification?
    Wonder if PCGS would autheticate them?

    http://minterrornews.com/issue37.pdf

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's actually a second 1920 Off Center
    on a Cent Buffalo Nickel that is in a strong
    hands collection.

    It surfaced in Conn. (If I recall correctly, when I bought it)
    and it's similar to this piece, which, as Andy says, had
    been on the market for a long time.

    No reason to suspect it as one struck on purpose.
    (I've seen plenty of those, and they don't bother me)

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 9, 2017 5:47PM

    I think this 1920 OC on Cent planchet has been priced to sell at $40,000 the last few years.
    I was surprised it and several other often advertised pricey errors appeared to sell for very appealing prices.
    I wonder if these lots sold to new owners or if their consignor bought some or all of them back ?

    MikeByers issue42 covered these better coin error auctions, pages 43-52.

    http://minterrornews.com/issue42.pdf

    Lindy

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Way cool!

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