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are these fake Engelhard bars?

carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭

Loves me some shiny!

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not familiar with that type of Engelhard bar. He does have a nice camera though. :|

  • tneigtneig Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭

    I think its funny that his stuff is priced $10 more than 1oz silver bars/rounds.

    COA
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too expensive.... and I have no idea if they are knockoffs.... Cheers, RickO

  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭

    Looks like a knockoff to me.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks a little off, but not necessarily a fake. They did make bars like that, but his looks a little too "perfect"

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I might complain if I did not get the camera shown in the reverse image, Just kidding :smile:

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  • Geckster109Geckster109 Posts: 231 ✭✭✭

    Based on his previous sales AND feedback, along with his fairly decent regular and recent selling volume.....im gonna vote they are legit. Carew, I know you have seen hundreds of different types of silver bars, and you and I even made a deal on what was probably one of the largest private collections of fractional silver in the country a few years back....but no matter how much you or I have seen, we haven't seen it all!

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have many vintage Engelhard bars and that one looks fake.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,011 ✭✭✭✭

    I would not buy it at $20.

  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks fine to me but over priced in my opinion.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Check the web site allengelhard.com. This site is based on very thorough research and shows a very comprehensive listing of all known Engelhard bars. If a bar type isn't shown on this web site, you should beware that your bar may not be real.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look at the top of the T in Troy. It is shifted left.

    The font on Englehard seems off and the slant on the lettering seems off.

    The curvature on the corners is as large as the fakes we see.

    Vintage? Seems very new looking.

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  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭

    my guess it is real silver but not made by Engelhard

  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my guess is that it is real silver plate and sourced from Ali-Express or some other Chinese portal

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even if it were real it's overpriced.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd steigh-a-weigh :s

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    Look at the top of the T in Troy. It is shifted left.

    The font on Englehard seems off and the slant on the lettering seems off.

    The curvature on the corners is as large as the fakes we see.

    Vintage? Seems very new looking.

    What MsMorrisine says... I'm no bar expert but that just doesn't look right.

    ----- kj
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭

    I did note the sellers history which is why I didn't just dismiss as fake, but rather seek some opinions.
    The ol spidey sense tingles on this one but feedback, other for sale items support it being legit.
    staying with gut and avoiding.


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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭

    JMHO-fake

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  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    lol, some interesting theories and observations...

    awesome bar, hard to find and real as can be...

    keceph `anah
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭

    @rawteam1 said:
    lol, some interesting theories and observations...

    awesome bar, hard to find and real as can be...

    Sold 10 this week...so maybe less hard to find ;)


    Loves me some shiny!
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    He prolly has a little hoard,I kept all mine...

    keceph `anah
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow

    rawteam1 can you shoot it next to another "more traditional" englehard 1oz silver and post it up?

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Run Forrest, Run.

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    I knew it would happen.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not buy it. Has the look and feel of those plated copper currency reproductions.

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