Let's talk Scarface, Gentlemen....and not the wimpy 1888-O variety.

Coinstartled

In today's mail!

cameonut2011

Ah, yes, the bludgeoned liberty variety.

Coinstartled

Wonder what the strike thru object was, perhaps a chunk of wood?

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

...first thought was what Odai Hussein looked like a couple hours after he ate a tow missle

jtlee321

Wow! That would make Al Capone cringe...

ricko

Nasty ... looks like she was hit with a log.... Seriously, it does look like it may have been a wood chip... but still interesting how some of the hair detail came through in the cavity.... Cheers, RickO

LanceNewmanOCC

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looks more like a delam to me.
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FredWeinberg

I agree with LNOCC -

It's a lamination, imo

(I'm from the 60's, where everyone
used the term 'lamination' - although
I concede delamination might be more
accurate (?), like 'clipped planchet' vrs.
'incomplete planchet', I'm going to call it a Lamination)

asheland

Very cool!

Coinstartled

@LanceNewmanOCC said:
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looks more like a delam to me.
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Seems like a very good call Ricko, Lance and Fred. Detail in the affected hair area is rather ragged and one would expect a smoother imprint from a strike thru.

Wonder if I can get it "HAC'd"

AUandAG

Meat cleaver result.....oh my!

bob

LanceNewmanOCC

@FredWeinberg said:
I agree with LNOCC -

It's a lamination, imo

(I'm from the 60's, where everyone
used the term 'lamination' - although
I concede delamination might be more
accurate (?), like 'clipped planchet' vrs.
'incomplete planchet', I'm going to call it a Lamination)

i probably have something to do with the whole (de)lamination thing.

sometimes i get a little sticky on how certain words are used, just a peculiarity of mine.

either way it is worded, we all know what it is referring to whom know about errors.
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oih82w8

"Laminations in rolled plate or strip are formed when blowholes or internal fissures are not fused
during rolling, but are enlarged and flattened into sometimes quite large areas of horizontal discontinuities"

I would agree that it was a lamination, and subsequent processes (circulation/handling) removed the "scab" from the surface, resulting in the appearance of a strike-through...I have been wrong before.

Coinstartled

I'll stick my neck out here that neither lamination or delamination is the proper term. Lamination is a specific form of manufacture of layered surfaces. To delaminate, part of the constructed layer or layers would have to separate. As this is not clad coinage, there is no original planchet lamination to separate.

oih82w8

@Coinstartled said:
I'll stick my neck out here that neither lamination or delamination is the proper term. Lamination is a specific form of manufacture of layered surfaces. To delaminate, part of the constructed layer or layers would have to separate. As this is not clad coinage, there is no original planchet lamination to separate.

So, you are saying that 90% Silver and 10% Copper of this and all Mogan Dollars is a homogenous mixture and layered?

Even with the 90% silver layer, there can be discontinuities (gas holes) within the material, which can cause laminations.

Coinstartled

I am suggesting that unlike clad coinage, the 90% silver Morgan planchet is not laminated. I understand the gas holes but differentiate the action from an outer clad layer separating.

johnny9434

thats different