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PCGS graded 3,177,833 coins in the last 12 months........

GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

That's well over a quarter million coins a month!





https://www.pcgs.com/Statistics/

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there a year by year graph?

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    Owen1793Owen1793 Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    Pretty surprising how few coins are details in my opinion. Little over 1% received "cleaned". I would have imagined it to be a much larger portion.

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    WhitWhit Posts: 373 ✭✭✭

    Well, that's an average of 362.76 coins per hour, 24/7. I'm not say that that's unreasonably high or unreasonably low. I have no idea how many person-hours PCGS logs per year in grading coins, or the average time it takes to grade a coin.

    Whit
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2017 6:03AM

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    so if we call it a 300 day work year, weekends/holidays excluded, they graded 10.5k coins a day.
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    JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep, no doubt about it. So much for coins being rare. :o

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    TetromibiTetromibi Posts: 947 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. I wonder how many people do they have grading on any given day.

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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting that counterfeits were higher than questionable color.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pre-1965, especially classic coins are becoming a smaller and smaller part of the coins submitted.

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OwenSeymour said:
    Pretty surprising how few coins are details in my opinion. Little over 1% received "cleaned". I would have imagined it to be a much larger portion.

    I know that when I submit, I receive over 1% cleaned or such :/

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    NumivenNumiven Posts: 382 ✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2017 8:07PM

    How long does it take to grade 1000s of this:
    http://m.ebay.com/itm/232062268902

    Why bother grading this? And who buys these graded coins BTW, do they understand grading?

    $199, its a deal,buy it before someone does...

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    DoughDeoDoughDeo Posts: 64 ✭✭✭

    with ~3.2 million coins graded
    only on ~250 "business days"
    by 2 independent graders (ignoring any additional tie breaking grader) per coin

    A minimum average of ~25,000 grading opinions are made per day.

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    boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    It was to my understanding that each grader grades a coin every six seconds.

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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2017 6:29AM

    Being a math major i had to do my own back of the envelope calculations (SORRY! could not resist)

    3,177,833 in 12 months

    so that's 265,000 on average per month

    There is an average of 22 business days in each month
    So that's about 12,000 coins graded per business day

    There are 8 hours in each business day
    So that's 1,500 coins graded per hour

    60 minutes in each hour
    So that's 25 coins graded per minute

    Let's say PCGS has 4 grading teams (not exactly sure of that exact number)
    So that's 6 coins graded per minute for each grading team.

    So each grading team grades 1 coin every 10 seconds

    If each grading team has 3 people on it (which I believe is correct)
    Each person on that team has 3 seconds to look at each coin

    That's with no breaks and not including time out for vacation or shows

    Kind of amazing numbers

    I think I would need more than 3 seconds to grade a coin.
    But then again I might be considered slow by industry standards!

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    JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Pre-1965, especially classic coins are becoming a smaller and smaller part of the coins submitted.

    Seriously, is that breakdown made public? My question is how much is bullion and NCLT mint releases? I know my comment above was somewhat facetious but It is my belief that publishing these monster numbers (and don't forget they do quite a bit ATS) hurts perception of rarity and the hobby in general.

    Joseph J. Singleton - First Superintendent of the U.S. Branch Mint in Dahlonega Georgia

    Findley Ridge Collection
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS says: "Plus Grades" exhibit exceptional eye appeal for the grade and constitute the top 30% of the coins in the grade.

    And yet only one out of every 60 gets it. Factor out those ineligible and it's is still remarkably low.
    Lance.

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    dbtunrdbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭

    FYI - they have graders in China now so you have to start thinking 24/7. Approx 400K Chinese Modern coins were graded in the December quarter alone by those graders with the start up of the China Mint relationship. They can probably grade those in seconds. Modern coins can be graded in a fraction of the time that Vintage coins can be graded in. I believe last annual report said they have 35 graders worldwide.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very impressive.... that is an incredible amount of coins being slabbed.... I wonder how long the quantity of coins worth grading (not counting moderns) will last... and not counting re-submissions... How deep is the well?
    Cheers, RickO

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Very impressive.... that is an incredible amount of coins being slabbed.... I wonder how long the quantity of coins worth grading (not counting moderns) will last... and not counting re-submissions... How deep is the well?
    Cheers, RickO

    Seems very deep........

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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OwenSeymour said:
    Pretty surprising how few coins are details in my opinion. Little over 1% received "cleaned". I would have imagined it to be a much larger portion.

    Subtract out all of the brand new bullion coins they grade each year... None of those should ever be "cleaned" as they arrive still in the Mint packaging. Then you might get a more meaningful percentage.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess the percentage of never-before-graded classic US coinage is minuscule. I'd guess 80% of the coins graded got either a 69 or 70 grade. A large part of what's left is regrades & crackouts.

    Interesting to consider the experience of a professional grader..... At a big show I look at plenty of coins and formulate my own grading opinions. In reality, I probably look at a few hundred and carefully at only a few dozen. I do this a handful of times per year. A pro grader would see my yearly quota before lunch.

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    TetromibiTetromibi Posts: 947 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So that's why it takes 1-2 months to get a couple of coins graded.

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