Information on 1822 bust dime requested

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stman
stman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

Always wanted one of these tough key dates. Got my humble example some time ago. I have read reported mintages, and known survivors. But also read they might not be correct. Even at half the mintage, still seems like a lot for being called a key. Perhaps survivors are rare? I never do see many at all through the years. If you have one please feel free to post it.

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  • stman
    stman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Anybody?

    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Both PCGS and NGC have certified populations. Unfortunately if they don't straight grade they don't get into the population figures usually unless an outside group does it.

  • yosclimber
    yosclimber Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Here's a start - the basic online sources. I'm not an expert in this series, so I can't help beyond this.

    "Ron Guth:
    The 1822 Dime is a very popular date because of its small mintage. However, this date is even rarer than its small mintage figure suggests because other dates (such as 1809 and 1811) have smaller mintages, yet collectors do not consider those dates as valuable as the 1822. A quick peek into the PCGS Population Report shows that PCGS has certified fewer 1822 Dimes than any other date in the series. In Mint State, no other Capped Bust Dime date is as rare as the 1822.
    Only one die variety (JR-1) comprises the entire Dime output of 1822.
    As already stated, Mint State 1822 Dimes are very rare, though they cover a range from MS62 to MS66.
    The best example is the PCGS MS66 from the D. Brent Pogue Collection."
    pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/4497

    "Premium Gem 1822 Capped Bust Dime
    Scarce Issue, JR-1
    Tied for Finest Certified

    1822 10C MS66 NGC. JR-1, R.4. The 1822 dime is the last single-year variety in the Capped Bust dimes, and it is also one of the key dates in the series. With the present lot, we offer what is likely one of the two finest known examples of this prized rarity in the Capped Bust series. It is quite likely that the listed mintage of 100,000 pieces struck in 1822 may include a large number of coins that were actually dated 1821, as Breen suggests. Experts generally conclude that approximately 300 pieces exist in all grades, putting the 1822 Bust dime in elite company as one of the most challenging issues of the denomination in the entire run of U.S. numismatics."
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/bust-dimes/1822-10c-ms66-ngc-jr-1-r4/a/1182-3756.s?hdnJumpToLot=1x=0&y=0

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  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great information in this thread! I always loved the 1809, 1811 and 1822 bust dimes.

  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice

  • originalisbest
    originalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
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    Very very nice 1822 dime from Benson. I have none, alas and alack.

  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @stman

    That is a great looking 22. Well done. That's exactly how I like them.

  • originalisbest
    originalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
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    @stman said:
    Thanks for posting, all. My humble example and I really like it.

    I can summarize your G04 example with one word, stman: "perfect."

  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I thought you had a mutt with fleas and here you trot out a beautiful purebred ;)

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @stman ...That is a nice old gal..... well traveled with lots of stories.... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • stman
    stman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thanks for the good words on the coin as well. I usually show obv and rev but, I don't have a program to do that anymore. To put it on a background and merge the two.

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  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    yeah, where's the reverse?

  • WDP
    WDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @EastonCollection, Love the Benson 1822 Dime above! And Benson coins in general.

    I bought two lots in the Benson sale, and wish I'd bought more. Great sale.

    W. David Perkins Numismatics - http://www.davidperkinsrarecoins.com/ - 25+ Years ANA, ANS, NLG, NBS, LM JRCS, LSCC, EAC, TAMS, LM CWTS, CSNS, FUN

  • BIGAL2749
    BIGAL2749 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭✭
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    What a great G04

  • jom
    jom Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wonderful 22s from stman and Easton! I wish I can find them like that...or rather AFFORD one like that.

    jom

  • EastonCollection
    EastonCollection Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Boy oh Boy - I enjoy threads like this- one of my favorite date is 1822 and i love dimes. The 1822 in Good has a terrific look.

    Easton Collection
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  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Stman's coin is way better, because it's a "circam". ;)

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  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @afford said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Here's mine. PCGS didn't straight grade it, but I like it. :)

    Why don't you think they graded it?

    probably called it cleaned

  • TopographicOceans
    TopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
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    @stman said:
    Thanks for posting, all. My humble example and I really like it.

    Nice cameo piece.

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  • EastonCollection
    EastonCollection Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @afford said:
    My #1 favorite coin of all time:



    I was waiting for this coin to show up. This is gorgeous and more likely to be the finest known. I never saw the coin in hand but the picture ranks it as one of the finest, if not the finest, hands down.
    Very impressive.

    Easton Collection
  • DoubleEagle59
    DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @DIMEMAN said:
    Here's mine. PCGS didn't straight grade it, but I like it. :)

    Genuine Fine Details (92 - Cleaned)

    ??????????

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @afford said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Here's mine. PCGS didn't straight grade it, but I like it. :)

    Why don't you think they graded it?

    Yes, they detailed it 92. Completely bogus. The coin is just as nice in hand...should have graded. I've been told I should crack it out and lay it in a window for several years turning it ever so often and resubmit it. Maybe someday. I just hate playing that game.

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  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Play the game, Dimeman, at least on this one. It will always come back no worse than the current holder

  • stman
    stman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Barndog said:
    Stman's coin is way better, because it's a "circam". ;)

    You just had to go there. Heh

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  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great dimes in this thread.

  • Baley
    Baley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    All 5 dimes shown so far are splendid coins in their respective grades. This is a rare issue that attracts attention in any grade, but when they coins have the eye appeal of these pieces they are particularly sought after. Well done guys.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • HoledandCreative
    HoledandCreative Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A tough coin to find in any condition. I am still looking for the right one for me.

  • EastonCollection
    EastonCollection Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I am thrilled to have the AU55 and still have it. I can't find a better one that i like to upgrade it.
    All the 1822 dimes posted are wonderful coins. congrats to all.

    Easton Collection
  • Eddi
    Eddi Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @EastonCollection said:
    I am thrilled to have the AU55 and still have it. I can't find a better one that i like to upgrade it.
    All the 1822 dimes posted are wonderful coins. congrats to all.

    You have a simply fantastic example of this interesting and scarce issue. I've been admiring your coin for years.

  • EastonCollection
    EastonCollection Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    thank you very much for your appreciated comment. I look the coin so much and i really don't care that i lose registry points for a higher graded coin. I know that others might make decisions differently but I love nice looking Early Dimes.
    Best

    Easton Collection
  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LOVE......THIS......THREAD.....! :heart::heart:

    @EastonCollection - if @Realone doesn't have that 1822. never mind, i can't imagine him NOT having that one.

    he has posted so many high-end early dimes with that precise look and all imaged by mgoodman to boot!

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  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I sold mine last year to a NJ collector who is assembling a pcgs 58 set of everything

    I do know, when i bought it years earlier, there didnt seem to be that many in 55 and higher, and after several years of owning ,(dont want to say numerous) but several MS pieces came on to the market. It hurt the sale of mine a little because the MS coins were bringing in auction what I paid for the 58 back in the day.

    But its fine, you win some, loose some, and new owner is still happy with my old coin

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