Redfield paramount guys...ever seen this?
Cacoinguy
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Holder has not been opened
First Ive seen like this
63 tag on the inside of the holder
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Not a Paramount guy but Ive seen plenty of their coins and Ive never seen anything like that.
And Im going to bet it was cracked and resealed...
I don't believe it is a Redfield...just a Paramount Holder. The holder looks correct with its' Made in Canada' label but a Redfield Paramount must say "From the Redfield Collection".
CC
Eggzacary! People used to try to pass these off as Redfield all the time. Especially the red ones and still do. What's rare are the green Redfield paramount holders. Those mean the coin was believed to be above ms65 level.
These with the inside grade sticker seen sometimes.
Grant Campbell of Dalton Coins usually has one or two in his cases at coin shows.
Some of the Paramount holders have an unusual trait that the Redfield holders do not have. Both the Paramount red and black have a “grade sticker” inside the holder that covers the holder printed grade.
So far I have only seen grade stickers with 63. Also I have only seen red and blue grade stickers.
Lew...very interesting. Cacoinguy...Coins from the Redfield Collection in Paramount holders came from the basement at the bottom of the coal chute from this place.
that coin has been switched and 63 label added
coins should have been in those holders for 30 years, and should be some color somewhere
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The coin is not a Redfield coin, but a coin from Paramount. It has not been "cracked and resealed" as these were sold labeled this way by Paramount. Versions with the black inserts had a "63" and versions with the red inserts had a "67" added as an embossed label before they were slabbed.
I have seen very few of these. The only ones I have seen are the "63" coins in black holders. I have not yet seen a "67" in a red holder. Those might be just a "rare" as the green insert Redfield/Paramount holders.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Looks like some coins I saw at Buena Park today. In the same stack the dealer had a few Redfield coins. Just wanted too much for my cheap taste.
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After a while they realized there were some coins better that 60 or 65... call it the 1st step towards the 11 MS grades
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Here is another Paramount very similar, so maybe I was wrong
rainesrarecoins.com/products/1878-cc-morgan-dollar-paramount-international-bu
I have seen them many times. I sure looked ridiculous and have no idea what they were thinking!
Thanks for info guys... have handeled lots of paramount and redfield holders and am aware of the difference...just had never seen the 63 sticker... this paramount case has never been opened . Figured I would find the answer here as I usually do. Thanks for the help on it.
Very interesting. Ive never seen the added grade label like that or the OPs coin.
That's a new one on me too! Thanks for posting.
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CC
I recall seeing a couple of those at coin shows in the Seattle area... The PNNA I believe... maybe the Boeing show too.... Cheers, RickO
If it doesn't say "Redfield Collection" on the insert it's just like any other Morgan or Peace dollar in a Paramount holder. Lot's of people get screwed on these things.
Cheers
Bob