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WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

Can't find much in my research on these tokens.... One is silver about the size of a US Half Dollar... John Wannamaker from Philadelphia - "The American University of Applied Commerce SALVE". The second is a "Saylor & Cadman Florence Colo" 5 Cents Token. Any help appreciated.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2020 2:47AM

    Old Thread Revival

    The following article on the American University of Applied Commerce is from 1909, so the 1906 date on the medal would be early prep.

    The Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science
    Vol. 33, No. 1, Industrial Education (Jan., 1909), pp. 151-154 (4 pages)


    Of note, their building has a huge eagle sculpture in it:


  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that is an eagle! Nice. Peace Roy

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    That is one, huge, Eagle statue....and very nicely detailed. Cheers, RickO

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I recognized John Wanamaker as the founder of the store Wanamaker's.

  • tokenprotokenpro Posts: 834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Saylor & Cadman is not listed in the Pritchard CO catalog nor on tokencatalog + I do not recall seeing one in my experience. Florence is a very common CO town for city-state tokens so all the value will come from being an older style, unlisted piece. All the town collectors will have the town so demand comes the everything, regional, county or city collectors since the wording does not indicate a topical category (saloon, bakery, mining, dairy) that would create more cross-interest. (The owners may turn out to be saloon keepers but the token would not be a "saloon token" in the accepted sense but more simply "a token from a saloon"). The token still has decent value & would do well on eBay.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2020 9:04AM

    @tokenpro said:
    the token would not be a "saloon token" in the accepted sense but more simply "a token from a saloon"

    What's the difference?

    Good info on Florence.

  • tokenprotokenpro Posts: 834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most experienced trade token collectors recognize only tokens that have the word saloon on the token as true "saloon tokens" in the topical sense.

    Tokens identified as being from saloons through directory or census evidence via the proprietors name, address or business name, etc. are tokens from a saloon (again, to most serious collectors -- still desirable but not saloon tokens).

    Tokens that say bar, tavern, joint or other synonym are not saloon tokens but rather bar tokens, tavern tokens, etc.. Even though the Opera Exchange was a well known saloon in Terre Haute, Indiana it is still not a saloon token as the word saloon does not appear on the token. Unfortunately the distinction has been muddied through many eBay listings by promoters and sellers less familiar with tokens so the descriptions and images have to be checked to affirm that a listing title that says "saloon" is actually a saloon token.

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