Are these old Dansco coin holders?
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Hey folks. I came across these in an old box. They have everything from blank penny, nickel, dime, quarter, half dollar and dollar. There's nothing dated past 1959.
Some also come with dates. You remove the plastic sheet from the side, put your coin in and slide the plastic back over and can store them in a binder.
Are they safe to store coins in? When are they from? Are they collected? Do coins tone better in these?
They give me a real good way to make small collections for my nephew, I'd love to use them, but if they're worth good money I'd rather put it in his college fund.
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I don't want to edit and have my post disappear again but I looked up the patent number and it's from 1919 for a "DISPLAY HGLIDER".
"In its present preferred form, the device includes a sheet-like structure, well-adapted for hinge-connection to a plurality of its follows to establish a book-like assemblage of said display devices; with each sheet-like structure including on opposite sides a number of spaced transparent slider sheets, normally pocketing therebetween one or more spacer sheets, such spacer sheets having a plurality of spaced openings out there through, each opening to receive and detain an article of a certain size to expose the obverse of: the article through one of such transparent sheets and to expose the reverse there- 01 though the other of said transparent sheets, when the appropriate transparent sheets are normally in place, that is, not slidably wr ghdrawn to permit removal. or insertion or a particular displayed article."
But wouldn't they have PVC which might leach into the coins somehow?
These are Wayte Raymond holders and they have a large following. They do not contain PVC and, as such, will not promote degradation dependent upon PVC. However, many a coin has been hairlined to all heck when the slides have been removed to place another coin in a slot. Be very careful if you use these.
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Sometimes I start to wonder what you guys don't know, lol.
On a side note, is okay to send these media rate?
Cool Wayte Raymond holders! They're collectible even w/out coins in them. I've never used them due to their reputation for scratching coins but last I checked people on eBay like them because they were selling for a nice chunk of change if in good condition (which yours appear to be).
Nice old Wayte Raymond holders... These are often found in old coin shops (saw stacks of them in a coin shop in NC) The caution about the sliders scratching coins is one to be observed... best not to use the sliders if the coins can press fit without falling out. Cheers, RickO
most holders will say who made them somewhere - Wayte Raymond was bought out by meghrig who continued to make identical olders with their new name. they still have some for sale at their website.
meghrigsupplies.com/WAYTERAYMONDSTYLEBOARDS.html
They are collectible in their own right. Dave Lange wrote a book about them
Pacific Northwest Numismatic Association
Oh cool. Thanks for the info guys/gals.
If any of you collect these and are interested, I can get a list together. There's a few more sheets of them. I could use the help.
Take new silver coins and fill em up, wait 40 years, presto, colors!
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
I believe it should be a published book but I once received a Dansco by media mail. Anyhow this........
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Fill 'em up with coins for your kid's college fund. Make sure they're to your liking. Post the coins you buy to fill them up with. Everyone here will let you know if they're worthy.
Many years ago I used the Wayte Raymond pages, as has been mentioned I never used the plastic slides because of the chance of scratching a coin.
I thought they were "Nationals" or are those the same as Wayte Raymond?
The ones that blew toning on FAST were GREEN. And most were uniface so the paper BACKING "worked" on the coins right from the git go.
THIS
is an old Dansco.
I love those old Meghrig / Wayte Raymond holders, I have started a couple of circulated Lincoln Cent sets for my boys using them and I sometimes pick up oddball sheets when I happen across them on eBay. NOS pages are also still available from Chief Coin & Supply, scroll down to the bottom of this page for a current list.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Some greens I thought were Library of Coins (LOC).
Library of Coins were THESE.
Whitmans were THESE:
As I recall, the one side GREENS were Meghrigs. I was gonna put my type set in one because the layout was so cool.
AND it had earlier bust types.
Glad I didn't. Don't care for one side toning.
Plus they were BIG!
Back in late 70's what were those albums that were PURE PVC?
all flexible and had removable label strips that you could put data on under the coins.
I know I dumped THEM!
@topstuf The Whitman albums you pictured are the newer ones, the early version (referred to as Bookshelf albums) had a gold stripe down the left side of the cover. I have a nearly complete set of those for US coins, now I'm slowly looking for the ones they made for foreign markets as well.
The albums you are thinking of which had the severe PVC issues were made by Harco, they featured plastic sleeves with individual pouches where you would place the coins. The pages were inert but the flexible plastic sleeves contained PVC which would leech onto the surface of the coins. There is a company in Canada named Gardmaster who makes a modern version which is completely safe for long term storage, I have used one of their albums for 20 years to house my clipped cent collection.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Harco Coinmaster -
The one-sided greens that topstuf is referring to aren't the open-air, one-side shows only, old green Whitman folders, but rather, one-side shows only, but with a protective slide, made by Meghrig. Julian has some examples for sale:
ebay.com/itm/Meghrig-G-9-Empty-Liberty-Head-Barber-Quarters-25c-Green-Album-1906-1916-/192088467085?hash=item2cb95d668d:g:NowAAOSwopRYil10
I don't find the old Wayte Raymond boards to be any more prone to hairlining coins than any other sliding plastic album; in all cases, you need to take care not to slidemark up pieces. If you are in a rush and careless, you certainly will make hairlines on coins. I like to source fresh mylar/duralar from an art supply place, such as Dick Blick (PVC free and in a variety of thicknesses) and make my own new slides, with an xacto, steel ruler and measuring twice.
Your recollection is exactly right.
One thing I particularly like about the truly vintage Danscos -- with red leather-look binders, no screw posts (at least not the same setup) and light tan cardboard pages -- is that the pages are THICK. Much more so than any Library of Coins album or Whitman bookshelf (or so it seemed to me; I only ever saw one in person once -- they're pretty scarce.) As such, in the vintage Danscos, I'd say the chances of a coin contacting a slide and getting hairlined would be much less!
The confusion here is, often, the Library of Coins exterior color covers were green -- as well as red, yellow, light blue, brownish-tan, etc. But the interiors were always a light to medium yellow, with either black or dark blue type. As they continued making them through the years, the amateurish line art gave way to a halftone BW photo for the covers by the early '70s (at the very least, for Washington quarters.) I think they may have stopped making them around 1970 or so. Others who were there at the time might recall exactly when.
A very very smart TPG would have their plastics supplier create albums and go to round encapsulation. Data could go around the edge and people could again have ALBUMS to look at.
And not the hokey SLAB albums you can get now.
Said company would get a jillion reholders and sell a billion albums.
maybe
I'm selling the 27 pieces I have as a single lot if any of you are interested.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/977797/fsh-wayte-raymond-album-boards-27-pcs
You are talking about Harco(sp?) not dansco. or the other holders shown.
but what your did have so much PVC you cant believe.
Yep. Harco. Green in a year or your money back.
Sometimes sooner.
I had a bunch of raw sovereign sized gold in one.
Looked sharp.
Ok with gold.
Ah, to get sov sized goldies for 30-40 bucks.
2 escudos, Napoleon's, 4 peso Philippines, Peruvian Indians....Cool.
Dealers didn't want them.
Scrap.
Ahhhhhhh yes