Thanks guys. I really thought it had a shot at RED too but we decided to let it ride as is. If the winner wants to try for a color or grade upgrade more power to them as I've also heard from those that have seen it in hand that it could have a shot at 67 too. I've also heard estimates that it could get close to the $100k range with all it has going for it in terms of beauty and upgrade potential as well as the story and provenance of being a fresh find etc.
Its been an amazing ride since I found it and I'm a little sad that it's coming to an end but that's how these things work. If I had the money I'd buy out my friend and keep it. Sadly though, I do not. I hope the new owner likes it. It really is one of the best, most attractive 09vdb MPL's out there imo. I'm still a tad in shock that I'm the one who was able to find it and bring it to market. -Chris
@ldhair said:
Great coin. You did a great job of bringing it to market in the right way.
Thanks Larry, it seems a lot of people are already placing their tag bids on it. This is should be a fun ride! Wish I could make it out there to watch the sale in person though.
@ldhair said:
Great coin. You did a great job of bringing it to market in the right way.
Thanks Larry, it seems a lot of people are already placing their tag bids on it. This is should be a fun ride! Wish I could make it out there to watch the sale in person though.
So you consigned a coin with $75K+ potential, and Stack's didn't offer you a plane ticket to the sale ?
I been following this from the start, I hope you guys get top $.
I just love these kind of discovery/cheery pick stories. You must be in nervous anticipation. Best of luck to you both. We will be watching.
@ldhair said:
Great coin. You did a great job of bringing it to market in the right way.
Thanks Larry, it seems a lot of people are already placing their tag bids on it. This is should be a fun ride! Wish I could make it out there to watch the sale in person though.
So you consigned a coin with $75K+ potential, and Stack's didn't offer you a plane ticket to the sale ?
At the time I was unsure if I could make it or not due to other obligations.
@BruceS said:
I been following this from the start, I hope you guys get top $.
I just love these kind of discovery/cheery pick stories. You must be in nervous anticipation. Best of luck to you both. We will be watching.
Thanks. I'm not too nervous. The coin, and epic story of the find, speak for themselves. And it's not a whisper, it's screaming!
Wow Chris, I never saw the article before now (nice pic btw )! What an amazing find and a PR66 grade whoah! You're on top of the coin kingdom, congratulations!!!!
When I first looked at the photos, I questioned whether it was a genuine 09VDB proof
The first pick up point is the die scratch from the back of the shoulder to under the T of LIBERTY, I saw faint traces, but thought that it might have been hidden in the toning on the left side.
The parallel die scratches in front of the nose, with one from the bottom of the nose were there, but did not see the intersecting die scratch, but all die scratches in front of the nose were weaker than normal. Perhaps also this is due to the photograph and lighting.
Saw several die markers around VDB that are on the proof.
Started to compare the die markers to the die markers on the 09 VDB proofs on PCGS coin facts, such as the
doubling on top of the WE on the obverse, several scratches on the bottom left side of the reverse, several scratches
on the inside of the O of ONE, all matched up.
The inside rim did not appear as wired as seen on most of the 09 VDB proofs I have seen.
Many nice early coins struck for circulation also have a semi granular surface, which makes it difficult to use this
as a defining criteria.
Since I published my LCMP book in 2009, the 1909 VDB is the most common coin that is sent to me to see if it is a proof,
each time, it was not. This is definitely a proof, but I can see how it might have been skipped over, especially with the die scratch on the shoulder not easily seen
I just read that on all 1909 VDB Proofs the period between the "D" and "B" is centered between the two letters. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, the poster wrote that the period is centered on some business strike dies so it is not a completely reliable diagnostic - just one more characteristic to look for on a Proof.
When I first looked at the photos, I questioned whether it was a genuine 09VDB proof
The first pick up point is the die scratch from the back of the shoulder to under the T of LIBERTY, I saw faint traces, but thought that it might have been hidden in the toning on the left side.
The parallel die scratches in front of the nose, with one from the bottom of the nose were there, but did not see the intersecting die scratch, but all die scratches in front of the nose were weaker than normal. Perhaps also this is due to the photograph and lighting.
Saw several die markers around VDB that are on the proof.
Started to compare the die markers to the die markers on the 09 VDB proofs on PCGS coin facts, such as the
doubling on top of the WE on the obverse, several scratches on the bottom left side of the reverse, several scratches
on the inside of the O of ONE, all matched up.
The inside rim did not appear as wired as seen on most of the 09 VDB proofs I have seen.
Many nice early coins struck for circulation also have a semi granular surface, which makes it difficult to use this
as a defining criteria.
Since I published my LCMP book in 2009, the 1909 VDB is the most common coin that is sent to me to see if it is a proof,
each time, it was not. This is definitely a proof, but I can see how it might have been skipped over, especially with the die scratch on the shoulder not easily seen
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. I think you called me during February's Long Beach show to congratulate me if memory serves. I've since received a ton messages from the MPL cartel telling me how awesome this find was and how they can't believe someone finally actually found one in the wild. While I'm not a Lincoln guy I am a variety nut with a keen eye for detail. This guy wasn't getting past me
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Really ......If that isn't red, what is ?
Thanks guys. I really thought it had a shot at RED too but we decided to let it ride as is. If the winner wants to try for a color or grade upgrade more power to them as I've also heard from those that have seen it in hand that it could have a shot at 67 too. I've also heard estimates that it could get close to the $100k range with all it has going for it in terms of beauty and upgrade potential as well as the story and provenance of being a fresh find etc.
Its been an amazing ride since I found it and I'm a little sad that it's coming to an end but that's how these things work. If I had the money I'd buy out my friend and keep it. Sadly though, I do not. I hope the new owner likes it. It really is one of the best, most attractive 09vdb MPL's out there imo. I'm still a tad in shock that I'm the one who was able to find it and bring it to market. -Chris
Great coin. You did a great job of bringing it to market in the right way.
Thanks Larry, it seems a lot of people are already placing their tag bids on it. This is should be a fun ride! Wish I could make it out there to watch the sale in person though.
AWESOME! Congrats. once again.
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WOW! That has to be in the top 10 stories of the year! Congratulations. How inspiring!
Wow super cool find!! Congrats
I am high bidder so far
So you consigned a coin with $75K+ potential, and Stack's didn't offer you a plane ticket to the sale ?
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I been following this from the start, I hope you guys get top $.
I just love these kind of discovery/cheery pick stories. You must be in nervous anticipation. Best of luck to you both. We will be watching.
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At the time I was unsure if I could make it or not due to other obligations.
Thanks. I'm not too nervous. The coin, and epic story of the find, speak for themselves. And it's not a whisper, it's screaming!
Always good to hear of these discoveries and the related hub bub. It stirs the hobby interest pot and keeps the hobby in the news.
This thing belongs in a museum.
Epic! I enjoyed the article. Such a great find!!
In the Stacks images, it looks RB to me. Fingers crossed on the final price!
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Wow Chris, I never saw the article before now (nice pic btw
)! What an amazing find and a PR66 grade whoah! You're on top of the coin kingdom, congratulations!!!!
Eccentrically dedicated
What did it hammer at? Too lazy to look it up.
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Great find,
When I first looked at the photos, I questioned whether it was a genuine 09VDB proof
The first pick up point is the die scratch from the back of the shoulder to under the T of LIBERTY, I saw faint traces, but thought that it might have been hidden in the toning on the left side.
The parallel die scratches in front of the nose, with one from the bottom of the nose were there, but did not see the intersecting die scratch, but all die scratches in front of the nose were weaker than normal. Perhaps also this is due to the photograph and lighting.
Saw several die markers around VDB that are on the proof.
Started to compare the die markers to the die markers on the 09 VDB proofs on PCGS coin facts, such as the
doubling on top of the WE on the obverse, several scratches on the bottom left side of the reverse, several scratches
on the inside of the O of ONE, all matched up.
The inside rim did not appear as wired as seen on most of the 09 VDB proofs I have seen.
Many nice early coins struck for circulation also have a semi granular surface, which makes it difficult to use this
as a defining criteria.
Since I published my LCMP book in 2009, the 1909 VDB is the most common coin that is sent to me to see if it is a proof,
each time, it was not. This is definitely a proof, but I can see how it might have been skipped over, especially with the die scratch on the shoulder not easily seen
Kevin
I just read that on all 1909 VDB Proofs the period between the "D" and "B" is centered between the two letters. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, the poster wrote that the period is centered on some business strike dies so it is not a completely reliable diagnostic - just one more characteristic to look for on a Proof.
Nice find!
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Thanks Kevin. I think you called me during February's Long Beach show to congratulate me if memory serves. I've since received a ton messages from the MPL cartel telling me how awesome this find was and how they can't believe someone finally actually found one in the wild. While I'm not a Lincoln guy I am a variety nut with a keen eye for detail. This guy wasn't getting past me
Wow, this is crazy cool! First time I have seen this thread. Congratulations! Stunning coin as well.
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