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ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 23, 2017 8:45AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I know it's old news to all of us, but the media seems to have just figured it out.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/01/22/feds-pinch-penny-heir.html

Feds Pinch Penny Heir
By Brian Gaffney Published January 22, 2017 Media & Advertising FOX Business

After confiscating a rare aluminum penny a California man inherited from his father, the U.S. Mint is saying it will do the same if it finds in circulation similar coins it never intended to circulate.

That adds up to a striking change of policy, say some coin collecting experts.

“This is the first I’ve seen anything like this,” said Paul Montgomery, a coin dealer and author of a book on rare coins. “I see the government getting very active in lots of things, but confiscating collectable rare coins has never been one of them.”

The controversy is the focus of an upcoming episode of the FOX Business Network series “Strange Inheritance.” On Monday, January 23 at 9 p.m. EST, host Jamie Colby investigates the curious story of Denver Mint worker Harry Lawrence, who died in 1980 and left his son Randy a plastic bag of misstruck “error” coins.

On a whim 33 years later, Randy Lawrence, who relocated to La Jolla, California, brought the baggie to coin dealer Michael McConnell. McConnell homed in on one item in particular – a 1974 aluminum penny.

McConnell said he first assumed the American penny coin was mistakenly struck on an aluminum blank meant for a foreign coin. (The U.S. Mint strikes coins for a number of other countries.) However, McConnell ultimately concluded it was related to a run of aluminum pennies the Mint produced but never circulated and ultimately melted down.

In the seventies, the Mint hoped to save money by switching from copper to a less expensive metal, but the experiment was a bust, said Montgomery. “The aluminum coins didn’t work in vending machines, and if kids swallowed them they wouldn’t show up in x-rays either.”

Once word got out that Lawrence and McConnell would put the apparently one-of-a-kind penny up for auction, collectors compared it to the most storied coins in American numismatics: Five 1913 Liberty Head nickels, one of which sold at auction for $3.7 million in 2010.

“I was getting phone calls from across the country as well as seeing articles across the world – Russia, China,” Lawrence told Colby. “In my mind, the price just kept going up.”

That’s until the government stepped in and demanded he hand over the penny. Lawrence filed suit, but eventually gave the penny back. The government itself has since displayed the penny on the coin show circuit.

A Mint spokesman said the government will do the same thing if it learns of other coins like Lawrence’s have slipped into circulation. The statement, however, did not commit the feds to trying to reclaim other highly valuable, high-profile coins that have been bought and sold by the collectors through the years.

Montgomery, whose book concluded the 1913 Liberty Head nickels were probably struck by a rogue Mint worker, notes that the government has never demanded the return of those coins. He wondered why the Lawrence coin was treated differently.

“Each one of those nickels have been owned and purchased and millions of dollars have traded hands and yet the government has never gone after them. Why this aluminum penny?”

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know why? :smile:

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They're promoting the episode. It must be coming up.

    The more you VAM..
  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They already did an episode on the Walton 1913...

    https://youtu.be/14DeCeSIxFY

    The more you VAM..
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone needs to step up and force the Government to do a CAFRA claim to keep it

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,141 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just for the sake of clarity you might wish to change the thread title to "1974-D"

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I heard a radio ad this morning, the episode airs tonight.

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Just for the sake of clarity you might wish to change the thread title to "1974-D"

    I was pretty certain that it was a Denver coin, but the article didn't specifically say, so I went with what was stated. :)

    It's updated.

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just watched it. When this story came out a lot of us thought he might have given it over so easily for a sizeable tax credit. Guess not unless he's not saying. Good episode but makes one dislike the government just that much more.

    Interesting that they didn't get the thoughts of the coin dealer who had a 40% stake in it about just giving it over without too much of a fight.

    Any bets on whether the Langboards will be on next season?

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:
    They're promoting the episode. It must be coming up.

    It played tonight.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is strange... I believe there are other aluminum cents still out there... I wonder if they will go after them as well... Cheers, RickO

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,288 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I recycled mine when aluminum was $1.22 per pound; along with some beer cans and a screen door.

  • PushkinPushkin Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2017 8:03AM

    I have some difficulties with these kids of coins. If they were illegally removed (stolen) from the Mint then it is no different than stealing from all citizens and such theft shouldn't be rewarded. However, interested parties e.g. children, who inherit such coins shouldn't be prosecuted unless they knew the coins were obtained illegally and seek to gain from those illegal actions. As an example, if my great grandparents owned a rare painting that was stolen and the heirs of the thief tried to profit from it they should be prosecuted and the painting returned to the heirs of the rightful owner. If they didn't know then the stolen property should be returned, IMO.

    Many people like to criticize the government and often for good reason, but is illegally obtained property not just that? On the other hand, these kinds of coins are fantastic numismatic pieces and it would be great for the public to have access to view them. These instances offer nourishment for a lot of legal and ethical debate, as well as numismatic interest.

    "The government itself has since displayed the penny on the coin show circuit." GOOD!

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