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Check out this recent PCGS submission of 50 Morgan $1's...47 of 50 are PL, 10 of 50 have a + or CC

GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,348 ✭✭✭✭✭
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https://www.pcgs.com/Membership/sharedorder.aspx?OrderNo=21143467&Year=2016&Month=12

Anyone think they know what this was about? I believe it was a big TrueView submission.

I'll say one thing.....I hope it shipped USPS Registered® Mail.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Todd must have lots of photos at FUN

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  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully

    I think I know whose submission that is :)

    I did a regrade submission on part of my set to get Trueviews and maybe some upgrades. (12 out 50 upgraded)
    The big ones were 1879 64PL to 65PL, 1885-S 64PL to 65PL, 1921 64PL to 65PL, 1921-D 64PL to 64+PL

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not one MS 67. What's a guy gotta do?

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • woogloutwooglout Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    Finally, my submission popped! ;) In truth, I'm on business day 25 for my modern sub. It should post any day now!?!

    Seeing all these higher tier coins makes me realize my moderns have taken a back seat to the heavy hitters, which is totally understandable with the holidays and upcoming shows.

    OT - I swear I saw a counterfeit 1980 nickel on one shared order. Anyone catch that?

  • FallGuyFallGuy Posts: 207 ✭✭✭

    WOW! Very nice!

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    Not one MS 67. What's a guy gotta do?

    If the grade don't fit you got to resubmit. Ha Ha.
    Now that the 84-o, 87 and 98-o got to 66+, I will have to try again sometime for the 67.
    They all have a pretty big jump in price from 66+ to 67.

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    @wooglout said:
    Finally, my submission popped! ;) In truth, I'm on business day 25 for my modern sub. It should post any day now!?!

    Seeing all these higher tier coins makes me realize my moderns have taken a back seat to the heavy hitters, which is totally understandable with the holidays and upcoming shows.

    OT - I swear I saw a counterfeit 1980 nickel on one shared order. Anyone catch that?

    My submission should have been done on 12/05/2016, but actually took 3+ weeks longer. With the holidays I assume things move slowly.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My coins arrived at pcgs 11/16... any idea when they should be done???

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    My coins arrived at pcgs 11/16... any idea when they should be done???

    My "regular" order was booked on 11/14 and shipped 12/30. If your order was "regular" service level it should be soon.
    You can always give customer service a call and see if they have more info.

  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's an awesome submission!

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @10000lakes said:

    @jwitten said:
    My coins arrived at pcgs 11/16... any idea when they should be done???

    My "regular" order was booked on 11/14 and shipped 12/30. If your order was "regular" service level it should be soon.
    You can always give customer service a call and see if they have more info.

    Awesome, thank you. I also have a variety on the submission, does that add to the time?

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten

    Depending on the variety, it could add to the time if they have to get the "right" person to review it.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do they go faster with downgrades? :D

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh holy hell. Wish I was the grader opening that submission :smile:

    The more you VAM..
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    somebody sure thinks PL's are nicer than DMPL's. Not one dmpl in the lot.
    Wish it were mine....dreams.

    bob

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  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    @AUandAG
    The DMPL's will be in a future submission.
    I didn't want to throw off the grader's rhythm, since they only spend a few seconds per coin :wink:

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's one hell of a submission all right. WOW!!

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 21 PL in 65. Are you kidding me :cry:

    The more you VAM..
  • ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:
    A 21 PL in 65. Are you kidding me :cry:

    With the cert of the Beast, no less

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    By the way, I really learned something having some of my coins submitted for re-grade. I have been mainly a buyer of coins for the last 15 years and other than a raw submission back in 2007, this year was the first year that I submitted any coins for re-grade.

    Based on the coins that got an upgrade, I have learned that overall eye appeal and luster will overcome what I thought was a grade limiting contact mark. My focus when purchasing was mostly focused on contact marks and depth of mirrors on PL/DMPL coins. Since all of these coins were purchased via online auction without a buyer rep or viewing in hand it was a lot harder to figure out the which coins had "the look" based on Ebay photos or other auction site pictures. Picture quality from 10+ years ago vs today are much improved.

    A regrade submission on some of your older purchases, may give you confirmation that your on the right track in your acquisitions, if you get any upgrades.

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 3, 2017 10:17PM

    @ranshdow said:
    With the cert of the Beast, no less

    Yeah, That's one thing I figured out back in 2005. Selling off my non PCGS PL/DMPL coins.
    I drank the Kool-aid and figured out it was best to focus only on PCGS coins if you are collecting PL/DMPL Morgans.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1921 65PL is certainly a sweet coin! NICE! In looking at the coin, it looks better than 65 so I can see a top pop in her future!

    I am a bit surprised that at least 1 out of 20 did not upgrade to DM.

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 3, 2017 11:51PM

    @Wabbit2313

    I asked that question in a previous thread about getting a designation upgrade on a re-grade submission.
    People say it happens but I'm not so sure when it comes to PL Morgans.
    I have quite a few PL and DMPL Morgans that I can compare between.

    I have owned a couple of different 1901-O in 64 DMPL, this 65PL has deeper mirrors than both of those.

    It's almost impossible to get a later date (190x) Morgan in DMPL under today's standards.

    I agree on 21, that it still has more upgrade potential. That one little tick in front of the nose might hold it back.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very impressive lot of Morgans... Congratulations.... Cheers, RickO

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    hold back as well as in front of the chin

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a cherry picked group for imaging, etc.. No one is good enough buying raw coins to get one top result after another.

  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 21-D in 64+pl. That is a coin I would love to see.

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @10000lakes said:
    @Wabbit2313

    I asked that question in a previous thread about getting a designation upgrade on a re-grade submission.
    People say it happens but I'm not so sure when it comes to PL Morgans.
    I have quite a few PL and DMPL Morgans that I can compare between.

    I have owned a couple of different 1901-O in 64 DMPL, this 65PL has deeper mirrors than both of those.

    It's almost impossible to get a later date (190x) Morgan in DMPL under today's standards.

    I agree on 21, that it still has more upgrade potential. That one little tick in front of the nose might hold it back.

    I agree on the post 1900 DMPL's. I have 3 1901-O's in DMPL and always have people wanting to borrow them to resubmit with their coins trying to get DMPL. Same on the 1902-O's.

    Just noticed the 1885-S in 65PL. That is another great coin.

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  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    @blu62vette said:
    A 21-D in 64+pl. That is a coin I would love to see.

    Here is the Trueview of the 21-D.
    This is one that I thought had some grade limiting marks on the cheek.
    But for a 21-D PL it's pretty "flashy", the graders must have agreed.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    See that's why I keep it privet all the time...... ;)



    Hoard the keys.
  • AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    .... Not one dmpl in the lot....

    bob

    Also none of the CC's made a plus grade. Interesting.

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2017 7:12PM

    @AngryTurtle said:

    Also none of the CC's made a plus grade. Interesting.

    Yeah, I thought they were suppose to grade the CC's easy, so I put them all at the front so they would rain down 67's and 68's on me B)

    A little background on the 1921-D that I purchased off Ebay as a BIN for $699 back in 2007, which was a very good price.
    After I checked out and paid for the coin, I had to message the seller to actually make sure there was a D on the coin.
    Based on these pics by the seller I wasn't sure >


  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2017 3:21AM

    Really nice submission! I am glad that they opted for Secure with TrueViews so all of us can see them! I think that someone finally found a time machine and was hanging around the mint on first striking day.

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2017 4:04AM

    @10000lakes said:

    @blu62vette said:
    A 21-D in 64+pl. That is a coin I would love to see.

    Here is the Trueview of the 21-D.
    This is one that I thought had some grade limiting marks on the cheek.
    But for a 21-D PL it's pretty "flashy", the graders must have agreed.

    That's a very nice coin that images like a 63+. It must look much stronger in-hand to warrant a 64+ grade.

    P.S. Here's a larger image of the obverse from Coinfacts.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said:

    @10000lakes said:

    @blu62vette said:
    A 21-D in 64+pl. That is a coin I would love to see.

    Here is the Trueview of the 21-D.
    This is one that I thought had some grade limiting marks on the cheek.
    But for a 21-D PL it's pretty "flashy", the graders must have agreed.

    That's a very nice coin that images like a 63+. It must look much stronger in-hand to warrant a 64+ grade.

    P.S. Here's a larger image of the obverse from Coinfacts.

    Got to be a joy to be the holder of this 1921-D $1
    64+ PL.....now that's a grade!!!!

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