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~ Christmas GTG Contest ~ *Grades Posted*

MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 14, 2016 6:43AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hey all, figured I'd do a 'Guess the Grade' contest this time around. This sub has been at PCGS for 25 business days, so hopefully we won't have to wait long for results. Be sure to include full grade including designation. Winner who correctly guesses all 5 grades will receive a Silver Eagle. I'll come up with something if there's a tie. Good Luck! :+1:

Edit: I wonder if I should post my own guesses.. maybe I will before the contest is closed.

1) 1881-S Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtzwonZugA

2) 1953 Lincoln

3) 1959 Washington

4) 1950-S Washington

5) 1917-D Lincoln NGC 65BN

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  • robecrobec Posts: 6,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1881-S Morgan - MS66PL
    1953 Lincoln - PR64BN
    1959 Washington - PR66
    1950-S Washington - MS65
    1917-D Lincoln - MS63BN

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very generous offer. I'd stake the odds of getting all 5 right at 5-10% or less. Looks like a tough group to get right. Nice coins too.

    MS66 PL
    PR66 BN
    PR67
    MS66
    MS65 BN

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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2016 12:47PM

    i can guess the grade of the silver eagle...ms69

    seriously though:

    MS66PL morgan
    PR65BN lincoln
    PR65 washington
    MS64 washie
    PR65 BN lincoln

    edit to add: i hope your grades are even better than my guesses.

  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the chance! Happy holidays!

    1881-S Morgan -- MS65PL
    1953 Lincoln -- PR65BN
    1959 Washington -- PR67
    1950-S Washington -- MS64
    1917-D Lincoln -- MS65BN

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    MS66 PL
    PR66 BN
    PR68
    MS64
    PR64 BN

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    '81-S Morgan- MS65 PL
    '53 Cent- PR65 RB
    '59 Washie- PR 66
    '50-S Washie- MS65
    '17-D Cent- AU58 BN

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  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    '81-S Morgan: MS-65
    '53 Lincoln: PR-65 BN
    '59 Washington: PR-66
    '50-S Washington: MS-64
    '17-D Lincoln: MS-64 BN

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  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1881-S Morgan MS-65PL
    1953 Lincoln Cent PR-66RB
    1959 Washington PR-67
    1950-S Washington MS-65
    1917-D Lincoln Cent MS-65BN

  • JeffersonFrogJeffersonFrog Posts: 874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2018 10:27AM

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  • woogloutwooglout Posts: 200 ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2016 2:51PM

    '81S $1 - MS66
    '53 1c - PR65CAMRB
    '59 25c - PR66
    '50S 25c - MS66
    '17D 1c - MS65+BN

    edit:wrong year and MM

  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2016 3:09PM

    81S Morgan - MS67
    53 penny - PR67 BN
    59 qtr - PR67
    50S qtr - MS65
    17d penny - MS65 BN

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64
    PF65
    PF68
    MS66
    PF66

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2016 8:43PM

    81-S Morgan: MS65+(reverse looks PL since you can see the camera reflection for a second but cant really tell if the obverse is as well, outstanding luster)
    53 Lincoln: Pr65bn
    59 Washington: Pr66
    50-s Washington: MS65
    17-d Lincoln: MS65bn

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  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭✭

    MS66
    PR66BN
    PR67
    MS65
    MS65BN

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • 1881-S $1 MS-66+
    1953 1c PR-66 BN
    1959 25c PR-67
    1950-S 25c MS-65
    1917-D 1c MS-63 BN
    Nice coins.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65PL
    PR66BN
    PR67
    66
    64+ BN

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    LOL! I see 2 people have graded the 17-D Lincoln Proof! Wouldn't that make the OP jump for joy! :smiley:

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just guessing at the Morgan, vid shows PL but can't see the surfaces.

    MS65+PL
    PF67RB
    PF67
    MS66
    MS65BN

  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, the chips fell where they landed. This is probably the most confusing sub I've had returned. It's not often you get several coins that PCGS grades 1-2 points higher than you expect and doesn't grade coins that are lock MS.
    Here was the outcome:

    1. 1881-S Unc Details ~ Damage (the 2 Morgans before this also graded Damage..?)

    2. 1953 PR64BN

    3. 1959 PR67

    4. 1950-S MS66

    5. 1917-D MS64BN

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the damage on the 81-s if I may ask?

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  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1630Boston said:
    What is the damage on the 81-s if I may ask?

    I was going to ask you the same.. check out the 2 that graded before it.

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  • woogloutwooglout Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    @mach1ne said:

    @1630Boston said:
    What is the damage on the 81-s if I may ask?

    I was going to ask you the same.. check out the 2 that graded before it.

    How are the rims? Look uniform to me, but what about straight on from the side?

  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there a flat spot in the reeding just above the dot between 'pluribus' and 'unum'? Maybe it was dropped on a hard surface at some point?

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tough challenge. Looks like 2-3 right was about as good as anyone did. And some going 0%. Your giveaway is safe. Only Robec got the 1953 PF64BN cent correct. Good job.

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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mach1ne said:

    @1630Boston said:
    What is the damage on the 81-s if I may ask?

    I was going to ask you the same.. check out the 2 that graded before it.

    i am wondering the same thing. i looked at the max true view...i don't see any damage unless there is some kinda rim damage we can't see.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could the Morgan have some sort of environmental "damage" related to the obverse toning?

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is really bewildering.... could it have been mislabeled? Sure does not have any obvious damage in the pictures...I would pursue that one... Let us know if you get further information. Cheers, RickO

  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for all of the feedback. I'm pretty certain I would have noticed damage on the coin that would have warranted a details grade. Mislabeled? It's in the realm of possibility, but unlikely. If I see nothing wrong with them when they're back, they will be cracked out. It's simple EOR toning from 2 original rolls I saw at a show. Nothing terminal and there's nice 'pull-away' too.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any update on this? Interested to know what the "damage" is on the Morgan.

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  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Any update on this? Interested to know what the "damage" is on the Morgan.

    They are labeled as "Machine Damg". There are zero hits or marks on the rims, so whatever damage is enough to warrant a details grade is staring at us in the face.. I called and they weren't able to provide an explanation for the grade. They will be cracked out and I will try to find someone to send them across the street for me.

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  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2017 9:45PM

    It might be rim damage or cheek damage.
    I had to download the max size Truveview and then zoom in even further.

    It's not like these are 5 or 6 figure coins. Net grade them a notch or two down and be done with it.
    Edit - I see that this a SECURE submission, maybe they have to "protect the brand" and are extra hard on these.

    It's like the previous thread about the 59 Lincoln, where we were coming up with microscopic reasons why that one was graded damaged.

    Edit, Oh by the way the other coins look great



  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think I see what looks like die polish on the reverse. They often will clobber a coin calling it machine damage if it's too concentrated.

    Love to know what they see.

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  • Bigbuck1975Bigbuck1975 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll gladly take that damaged morgan off your hands buddy!!

  • woogloutwooglout Posts: 200 ✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2017 5:20PM

    @mach1ne said:

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Any update on this? Interested to know what the "damage" is on the Morgan.

    They are labeled as "Machine Damg". There are zero hits or marks on the rims, so whatever damage is enough to warrant a details grade is staring at us in the face.. I called and they weren't able to provide an explanation for the grade. They will be cracked out and I will try to find someone to send them across the street for me.

    I had a nicely toned 72-P Type 3 Ike come back as machine damaged. It had a very similar pattern to the cheek hits your Morgan shows. I cracked it, resubmitted and it came back 65. Only crackout for resubmit I've done.

    edit - not a monster, nicely toned is more accurate

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those rake marks across the cheek are in multiple areas and don't correspond to bag marks, or contact with other coins. Look like a machine or tool raked across the obverse more than once. If it were just one or two such scratches it might be fine. But that series of 5 deep ones in front of the ear is probably what they didn't like.

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  • Bigbuck1975Bigbuck1975 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @roadrunner said:
    Those rake marks across the cheek are in multiple areas and don't correspond to bag marks, or contact with other coins. Look like a machine or tool raked across the obverse more than once. If it were just one or two such scratches it might be fine. But that series of 5 deep ones in front of the ear is probably what they didn't like.

    I don't think that's the OP coin unless I am missing something.

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2017 9:31PM

    The pics I posted were from two other Morgans that were listed as damaged. cert# 82215804 #82215803, #82215802.

    The OP said "I was going to ask you the same.. check out the 2 that graded before it."

  • stealerstealer Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2017 9:48PM

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    I think I see what looks like die polish on the reverse. They often will clobber a coin calling it machine damage if it's too concentrated.

    Love to know what they see.

    The graders definitely know the difference between die polish and damage and would never call the former the latter .........

  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are the three. I thought they would grade 62/64/66, respectively. I appreciate the comments so far.



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