~ Christmas GTG Contest ~ *Grades Posted*

MonsterCoinz

Hey all, figured I'd do a 'Guess the Grade' contest this time around. This sub has been at PCGS for 25 business days, so hopefully we won't have to wait long for results. Be sure to include full grade including designation. Winner who correctly guesses all 5 grades will receive a Silver Eagle. I'll come up with something if there's a tie. Good Luck!

Edit: I wonder if I should post my own guesses.. maybe I will before the contest is closed.

1) 1881-S Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtzwonZugA

2) 1953 Lincoln

3) 1959 Washington

4) 1950-S Washington

5) 1917-D Lincoln NGC 65BN

robec

1881-S Morgan - MS66PL
1953 Lincoln - PR64BN
1959 Washington - PR66
1950-S Washington - MS65
1917-D Lincoln - MS63BN

roadrunner

Very generous offer. I'd stake the odds of getting all 5 right at 5-10% or less. Looks like a tough group to get right. Nice coins too.

MS66 PL
PR66 BN
PR67
MS66
MS65 BN

steveben

i can guess the grade of the silver eagle...ms69

seriously though:

MS66PL morgan
PR65BN lincoln
PR65 washington
MS64 washie
PR65 BN lincoln

edit to add: i hope your grades are even better than my guesses.

EXOJUNKIE

Thanks for the chance! Happy holidays!

1881-S Morgan -- MS65PL
1953 Lincoln -- PR65BN
1959 Washington -- PR67
1950-S Washington -- MS64
1917-D Lincoln -- MS65BN

TopographicOceans

MS66 PL
PR66 BN
PR68
MS64
PR64 BN

cmerlo1

'81-S Morgan- MS65 PL
'53 Cent- PR65 RB
'59 Washie- PR 66
'50-S Washie- MS65
'17-D Cent- AU58 BN

Kyle

'81-S Morgan: MS-65
'53 Lincoln: PR-65 BN
'59 Washington: PR-66
'50-S Washington: MS-64
'17-D Lincoln: MS-64 BN

jtlee321

1881-S Morgan MS-65PL
1953 Lincoln Cent PR-66RB
1959 Washington PR-67
1950-S Washington MS-65
1917-D Lincoln Cent MS-65BN

JeffersonFrog

...

wooglout

'81S $1 - MS66
'53 1c - PR65CAMRB
'59 25c - PR66
'50S 25c - MS66
'17D 1c - MS65+BN

edit:wrong year and MM

spacehayduke

81S Morgan - MS67
53 penny - PR67 BN
59 qtr - PR67
50S qtr - MS65
17d penny - MS65 BN

ms70

MS64
PF65
PF68
MS66
PF66

ChrisH821

81-S Morgan: MS65+(reverse looks PL since you can see the camera reflection for a second but cant really tell if the obverse is as well, outstanding luster)
53 Lincoln: Pr65bn
59 Washington: Pr66
50-s Washington: MS65
17-d Lincoln: MS65bn

MarkInDavis

MS66
PR66BN
PR67
MS65
MS65BN

SomeGuyFromMichigan

1881-S $1 MS-66+
1953 1c PR-66 BN
1959 25c PR-67
1950-S 25c MS-65
1917-D 1c MS-63 BN
Nice coins.

mannie gray

65PL
PR66BN
PR67
66
64+ BN

amwldcoin

LOL! I see 2 people have graded the 17-D Lincoln Proof! Wouldn't that make the OP jump for joy!

bolivarshagnasty

Just guessing at the Morgan, vid shows PL but can't see the surfaces.

MS65+PL
PF67RB
PF67
MS66
MS65BN

MonsterCoinz

Well, the chips fell where they landed. This is probably the most confusing sub I've had returned. It's not often you get several coins that PCGS grades 1-2 points higher than you expect and doesn't grade coins that are lock MS.
Here was the outcome:

1. 1881-S Unc Details ~ Damage (the 2 Morgans before this also graded Damage..?)

2. 1953 PR64BN

3. 1959 PR67

4. 1950-S MS66

5. 1917-D MS64BN

1630Boston

What is the damage on the 81-s if I may ask?

MonsterCoinz

@1630Boston said:
What is the damage on the 81-s if I may ask?

I was going to ask you the same.. check out the 2 that graded before it.

wooglout

@mach1ne said:

@1630Boston said:
What is the damage on the 81-s if I may ask?

I was going to ask you the same.. check out the 2 that graded before it.

How are the rims? Look uniform to me, but what about straight on from the side?

panexpoguy

Is there a flat spot in the reeding just above the dot between 'pluribus' and 'unum'? Maybe it was dropped on a hard surface at some point?

roadrunner

Tough challenge. Looks like 2-3 right was about as good as anyone did. And some going 0%. Your giveaway is safe. Only Robec got the 1953 PF64BN cent correct. Good job.

steveben

@mach1ne said:

@1630Boston said:
What is the damage on the 81-s if I may ask?

I was going to ask you the same.. check out the 2 that graded before it.

i am wondering the same thing. i looked at the max true view...i don't see any damage unless there is some kinda rim damage we can't see.

roadrunner

Could the Morgan have some sort of environmental "damage" related to the obverse toning?

ricko

That is really bewildering.... could it have been mislabeled? Sure does not have any obvious damage in the pictures...I would pursue that one... Let us know if you get further information. Cheers, RickO

MonsterCoinz

Thanks for all of the feedback. I'm pretty certain I would have noticed damage on the coin that would have warranted a details grade. Mislabeled? It's in the realm of possibility, but unlikely. If I see nothing wrong with them when they're back, they will be cracked out. It's simple EOR toning from 2 original rolls I saw at a show. Nothing terminal and there's nice 'pull-away' too.

ChrisH821

Any update on this? Interested to know what the "damage" is on the Morgan.

MonsterCoinz

@ChrisH821 said:
Any update on this? Interested to know what the "damage" is on the Morgan.

They are labeled as "Machine Damg". There are zero hits or marks on the rims, so whatever damage is enough to warrant a details grade is staring at us in the face.. I called and they weren't able to provide an explanation for the grade. They will be cracked out and I will try to find someone to send them across the street for me.

10000lakes

It might be rim damage or cheek damage.
I had to download the max size Truveview and then zoom in even further.

It's not like these are 5 or 6 figure coins. Net grade them a notch or two down and be done with it.
Edit - I see that this a SECURE submission, maybe they have to "protect the brand" and are extra hard on these.

It's like the previous thread about the 59 Lincoln, where we were coming up with microscopic reasons why that one was graded damaged.

Edit, Oh by the way the other coins look great

DollarAfterDollar

I think I see what looks like die polish on the reverse. They often will clobber a coin calling it machine damage if it's too concentrated.

Love to know what they see.

Bigbuck1975

I'll gladly take that damaged morgan off your hands buddy!!

wooglout

@mach1ne said:

@ChrisH821 said:
Any update on this? Interested to know what the "damage" is on the Morgan.

They are labeled as "Machine Damg". There are zero hits or marks on the rims, so whatever damage is enough to warrant a details grade is staring at us in the face.. I called and they weren't able to provide an explanation for the grade. They will be cracked out and I will try to find someone to send them across the street for me.

I had a nicely toned 72-P Type 3 Ike come back as machine damaged. It had a very similar pattern to the cheek hits your Morgan shows. I cracked it, resubmitted and it came back 65. Only crackout for resubmit I've done.

edit - not a monster, nicely toned is more accurate

roadrunner

Those rake marks across the cheek are in multiple areas and don't correspond to bag marks, or contact with other coins. Look like a machine or tool raked across the obverse more than once. If it were just one or two such scratches it might be fine. But that series of 5 deep ones in front of the ear is probably what they didn't like.

Bigbuck1975

@roadrunner said:
Those rake marks across the cheek are in multiple areas and don't correspond to bag marks, or contact with other coins. Look like a machine or tool raked across the obverse more than once. If it were just one or two such scratches it might be fine. But that series of 5 deep ones in front of the ear is probably what they didn't like.

I don't think that's the OP coin unless I am missing something.

10000lakes

The pics I posted were from two other Morgans that were listed as damaged. cert# 82215804 #82215803, #82215802.

The OP said "I was going to ask you the same.. check out the 2 that graded before it."

stealer

@DollarAfterDollar said:
I think I see what looks like die polish on the reverse. They often will clobber a coin calling it machine damage if it's too concentrated.

Love to know what they see.

The graders definitely know the difference between die polish and damage and would never call the former the latter .........

MonsterCoinz

Here are the three. I thought they would grade 62/64/66, respectively. I appreciate the comments so far.