Looks more like a strike through or a gas bubble that popped and created the depression. Is it raised or depressed in that area? A cud would be raised as the metal flow fills in the missing die piece..
@thebigeng said:
Looks more like a strike through or a gas bubble that popped and created the depression. Is it raised or depressed in that area? A cud would be raised as the metal flow fills in the missing die piece..
One or the other. Not a cud.
If the side opposite this area is exceptionally well struck then it is probably a strike through because of the extra thickness there during the strike. If the obverse is normal, then it is probably a planchet defect that separated after the strike.
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The rev. has all the die cracks of S-240, which was cracked
from the rim through the left ribbon & clashed heavely
by dentils near the fraction. Breen remarks in later states
there was axial misalignment with weak areas at the end of
drapery and OF and that the obv had become loose and
clashed. He further infers that a later state may exist
showing severe breakage at the right obv, or rev.
OK...now, in the later picture, it appears incuse.... initially I thought it was protruding.... one of those eye tricks... Thanks for the larger picture...Cheers, RickO
You can tell by the way that the light hits known raised surfaces (the bottoms of the letters in ONE CENT, and the lower rim) which way the light is coming from. From that you can see that the area in question is a valley, with the light hitting the far side of it. If it were a mesa, it would be hitting the near side of it. Stand on the south rim of the Grand Canyon on a sunny day and you will see the north side of the canyon all lit up.
TD
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@thebigeng said:
Looks more like a strike through or a gas bubble that popped and created the depression. Is it raised or depressed in that area? A cud would be raised as the metal flow fills in the missing die piece..
One or the other. Not a cud.
If the side opposite this area is exceptionally well struck then it is probably a strike through because of the extra thickness there during the strike. If the obverse is normal, then it is probably a planchet defect that separated after the strike.
My thought also, Cap'n. Planchet defect that came off.
@ricko said:
OK...now, in the later picture, it appears incuse.... initially I thought it was protruding.... one of those eye tricks... Thanks for the larger picture...Cheers, RickO
Now I see what you're talking about...weird that the mind's preconceived realities can influence what the eyes see.
@newcollect said:
grading should be done soon,PCGS contacted me and asked if I wanted to change to mint error service and I said sure why not, hope its collectable.
Good thing, you could have gotten a details grade because of planchet flaw otherwise.
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Looks more like a strike through or a gas bubble that popped and created the depression. Is it raised or depressed in that area? A cud would be raised as the metal flow fills in the missing die piece..
Is there any value added to this coin for collectors with this error?
Wow... looks more like a tumor than a cud.... Cheers, RickO
Not really.
What bigeng said....I don't think that's a cud.
Here's the photo. I agree it's not a cud.
One or the other. Not a cud.
If the side opposite this area is exceptionally well struck then it is probably a strike through because of the extra thickness there during the strike. If the obverse is normal, then it is probably a planchet defect that separated after the strike.
The rev. has all the die cracks of S-240, which was cracked
from the rim through the left ribbon & clashed heavely
by dentils near the fraction. Breen remarks in later states
there was axial misalignment with weak areas at the end of
drapery and OF and that the obv had become loose and
clashed. He further infers that a later state may exist
showing severe breakage at the right obv, or rev.
It would be helpful to see the obv condition.
R.I.P. Bear
OK...now, in the later picture, it appears incuse.... initially I thought it was protruding.... one of those eye tricks... Thanks for the larger picture...Cheers, RickO
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/glonkey/media/s-l1600 12_zpsdvl2pcxx.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
OBV pic above- Crappers still cant up load pic , just the link!
That is ok...the link works.... Thanks, Cheers, RickO
You can tell by the way that the light hits known raised surfaces (the bottoms of the letters in ONE CENT, and the lower rim) which way the light is coming from. From that you can see that the area in question is a valley, with the light hitting the far side of it. If it were a mesa, it would be hitting the near side of it. Stand on the south rim of the Grand Canyon on a sunny day and you will see the north side of the canyon all lit up.
TD
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Looks like a stikethrough or lamination of some sort. Defenatly not a cud
My thought also, Cap'n. Planchet defect that came off.
Now I see what you're talking about...weird that the mind's preconceived realities can influence what the eyes see.
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Here is the OBV;
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grading should be done soon,PCGS contacted me and asked if I wanted to change to mint error service and I said sure why not, hope its collectable.
Good thing, you could have gotten a details grade because of planchet flaw otherwise.