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Techincal Numismatics - Pitting Corrosion, Hydrogen Embrittlement, and Residual Stress Cracking

For those who are techie nerds like JD and I, we have an article out in the current Gobrecht Journal on Pitting Corrosion, Hydrogen Embrittlement, and Residual Stress Cracking which will provide some of the how and why of cracks & pits on coining dies. A slightly revised version will be published in the John Reich Journal for the early crowd.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool! Looking forward to reading it with JRCS.
    Lance.

  • RittenhouseRittenhouse Posts: 565 ✭✭✭

    For those who are not LSCC or JRCS, I will post links to versions on my DropBox after both GJ and JRJ have been out for a while.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That should be an interesting article!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have always been fascinated by various aspects of metallurgy. Look forward to the article. Cheers, RickO

  • EvilMCTEvilMCT Posts: 799 ✭✭✭

    Look forward to the links.

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  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for doing this. Look forward to it.

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Hydrogen embrittlement" will be of particular interest since there was no general source of hydrogen (atomic or molecular) until methane came into general use for heating planchets and die steel.

  • RittenhouseRittenhouse Posts: 565 ✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    "Hydrogen embrittlement" will be of particular interest since there was no general source of hydrogen (atomic or molecular) until methane came into general use for heating planchets and die steel.

    It's rather obvious you have no idea of what hydrogen embrittlement is, how it occurs, or how hydrogen is generated, and probably to whom you speak.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2016 3:49PM

    @Rittenhouse said:

    @RogerB said:
    "Hydrogen embrittlement" will be of particular interest since there was no general source of hydrogen (atomic or molecular) until methane came into general use for heating planchets and die steel.

    It's rather obvious you have no idea of what hydrogen embrittlement is, how it occurs, or how hydrogen is generated, and probably to whom you speak.

    Why the nasty post?

  • RittenhouseRittenhouse Posts: 565 ✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    @Rittenhouse said:

    @RogerB said:
    "Hydrogen embrittlement" will be of particular interest since there was no general source of hydrogen (atomic or molecular) until methane came into general use for heating planchets and die steel.

    It's rather obvious you have no idea of what hydrogen embrittlement is, how it occurs, or how hydrogen is generated, and probably to whom you speak.

    Why the nasty post?

    Why yours?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ???? Could we please use civil discourse to further our discussions and provide useful information to the forum?
    Thank you, Cheers, RickO

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “Rittenhouse:” My earlier post was simply an expression of interest, nothing more.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just finished the article...interesting to say the least. Really nice macro images, and that 1850-O 50C Liberty needs to see a dermatologist ASAP before it spreads more!

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  • RittenhouseRittenhouse Posts: 565 ✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    “Rittenhouse:” My earlier post was simply an expression of interest, nothing more.

    THen I apologize. I took it as a backhanded criticism casting doubt on an article you hadn't even read.

  • RittenhouseRittenhouse Posts: 565 ✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    Just finished the article...interesting to say the least. Really nice macro images, and that 1850-O 50C Liberty needs to see a dermatologist ASAP before it spreads more!

    Glad you liked it. There are other dies that's show a bit more pitting corrosion. We chose that one for the photo angle and lack of heavy toning.

    Finding photos to clearly illustrate these micro die features is tough. Easy to see "coin-in-hand," but quite difficult to find a photo that accurately communicates to the reader.

  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hydrogen embrittlement has plagued steel processing since the days of the Romans. The problem was described but not understood. When you are dealing with earth wind fire water, it is a bit tough to understand. The problem was also documented but not understood with Damascus Steel, specifically in sabers and swords. All of this was long before 1776

    Hard to analyse the problem when hydrogen had not been "discovered" yet.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We dealt with hydrogen embrittlement in plating processes years ago when I worked in the printed circuit industry... could cause a lot of scrap. Cheers, RickO

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