1961 Proof Sets Question
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Anyone here ever seen a 1961 proof set or other proof set about the same time period that was a "Double" set? The bottom left corner of the envelope even stated that it was a double set. I saw it at an auction today, and I have never seen one before. I thought that it was pretty interesting, and maybe I should have bid higher but I backed out at $70. I got a few other decent items so it was a good day anyway.
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Never ever seen one, never heard of one.
You're sure it wasn't a 1961 mint set that someone typed on the envelope?
I'm assuming it was OGP? Or perhaps represented as such?
It was the OGP, and it had 1962 P.C. at the bottom left hand corner along with the number 2.
I have never seen a set like that.
Nor I. Sounds like a misdescription of something.
1961 P.C. (Proof Coins) Brown envelope, flat pack, Philadelphia return address, 1 coin set
1961 Mint set brown flat pack with just code 12 or 28 Washington D.C. return address, 2 coin set P-D
1962 P.C. (Proof Coins) Brown envelope, flat pack, Philadelphia return adress.
1962 U.C. (Uncirculated Coins) White envelope, flat pack, San Fransico return address, 2 coin set P-D
Not quite sure what year because you mention 61 and 62, but there are a slew of 'after market' envelopes available so confusion can reign along with general psychosis. Anyway, for those years, proofs only came in a single flat pack containing proof examples of each denomination, the uncirculated in a 2 insert flat pack representing P and D Mints.
Anyway, at $70 it was way over bid for either year or either set.
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New one to me.
Never seen that - and I've looked at hundreds and hundreds of sets.
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I have not seen anything like that. There were double mint sets until 1958 after which the Uncirculated coins were placed in poly packs which allowed easy viewing of both sides of the coins. The cardboard holders of previous years showed only one side of the coins.
I agree with all the above post each has merit
I have seen a lot of proof sets and mint sets from the late 50's and early 60's and have never seen a proof set like this. I wish I had been the winning bidder for the darned thing, but the price was just getting out of hand At $70 it was almost double bid price for two proof sets. If I had been the winning bidder I would have had pics to go along with my original post, and obviously pictures always help.
Sorry, accidentally posted 1962 in that second comment. It was indeed a 1961 like I stated in my original post. So it had 1961 P.C. and the number "2"
I suspect a 'secondary' envelope to replace OGH which only adds to the confusion.
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The print on the envelope looked like the others, but I suppose you can copy anything. I appreciate the insight, I guess I never thought about it being a copy or aftermarket envelope.
Never trust envelopes from that era. They were stock envelopes with stock letterpress printing. Exact duplicates were made by aftermarket printers who sold them to collectors and dealers who wanted "fresh" envelopes for their sets. Variety envelopes would have been very easy to make. A member of my coin club back in the 1980's made these replacement envelopes and they were exact duplicates of what the mint used.
Without a pic I can't confirm with certainty, but the mint did put 2 sets in 1 envelope if you ordered 2 sets. There is nothing special about it. The sets themselves are single sets just as you would expect in a single set. Just 2 of them in the envelop.
Worth bid per set, unless there was something special in a set.
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