My daughter said my 5 arrived yesterday. Cant wait to get home and check them out. Wife had to see a doctor a few hours away so it was better to spend the night. Now I have something to look forward to when I get back home
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@AMRC said:
Not sure why everyone is so excited about a Fantasy piece. Cool, no doubt, but just something feels weird about buying into it.
For those of us born after 1964, this may be the closest we will ever get to the experience of getting a brand new silver circulating (albeit you don't find Morgans or Peace dollars in circulation any more) coin.
@ricko said:
Not a counterfeit if it was never minted....Cheers, RickO
A completely bogus argument. There are many counterfeit U.S. coins that were never minted in genuine form. Start with the 1787 Flowing Hair half dollar, skip to the late date Capped Bust half dollars, go to the 1923-D and 1930-D dimes and top it off with the 1944 plain Henning nickel. There are others.
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@ricko said:
Not a counterfeit if it was never minted....Cheers, RickO
A completely bogus argument. There are many counterfeit U.S. coins that were never minted in genuine form. Start with the 1787 Flowing Hair half dollar, skip to the late date Capped Bust half dollars, go to the 1923-D and 1930-D dimes and top it off with the 1944 plain Henning nickel. There are others.
So, are any of those examples of genuine altered US Mint coins with fantasy dates not intended to deceive?
@ricko said:
Not a counterfeit if it was never minted....Cheers, RickO
A completely bogus argument. There are many counterfeit U.S. coins that were never minted in genuine form. Start with the 1787 Flowing Hair half dollar, skip to the late date Capped Bust half dollars, go to the 1923-D and 1930-D dimes and top it off with the 1944 plain Henning nickel. There are others.
So, are any of those examples of genuine altered US Mint coins with fantasy dates not intended to deceive?
That wasn't the question at all, was it?
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I believe the total mintage on this coin is 1,964. Some of the 1975 Eisenhower dollars only had a mintage of like 150 - 200. It will be interesting to see which one's are more sought after in a few years.
@Mizzou said:
I believe the total mintage on this coin is 1,964. Some of the 1975 Eisenhower dollars only had a mintage of like 150 - 200. It will be interesting to see which one's are more sought after in a few years.
@AMRC said:
Not sure why everyone is so excited about a Fantasy piece. Cool, no doubt, but just something feels weird about buying into it.
For those of us born after 1964, this may be the closest we will ever get to the experience of getting a brand new silver circulating (albeit you don't find Morgans or Peace dollars in circulation any more) coin.
"new silver circulating coin" ??? Only the Mint can circulate money.
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@CaptHenway ...Point taken Capt......however, the definition of counterfeit is -
1. made in imitation so as to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine; not genuine; forged:
So I made my statement based on that...It cannot be an imitation (it was never made), it is not being passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine.
I do see your point, but based on that, I stand by my statement. Cheers, RickO
@ricko said: @CaptHenway ...Point taken Capt......however, the definition of counterfeit is -
1. made in imitation so as to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine; not genuine; forged:
So I made my statement based on that...It cannot be an imitation (it was never made), it is not being passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine.
I do see your point, but based on that, I stand by my statement. Cheers, RickO
As do I, using the exact words written by both of us.
TD
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@ricko said: @CaptHenway ...Point taken Capt......however, the definition of counterfeit is -
1. made in imitation so as to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine; not genuine; forged:
So I made my statement based on that...It cannot be an imitation (it was never made), it is not being passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine.
I do see your point, but based on that, I stand by my statement. Cheers, RickO
The intent element would only be potentially relevant to a criminal prosecution. What difference does intent matter as to what we label the coin?
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Very nice, I like how you "expanded" the mint set.
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Thanks. I think I might like the Morgan better than the Peace.
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Agree. Love it's place in the Whitman case!
Looks great, glad I ordered a few of them
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I received mine yesterday.... very nice and some doubling on the stars... Cheers, RickO
My daughter said my 5 arrived yesterday. Cant wait to get home and check them out. Wife had to see a doctor a few hours away so it was better to spend the night. Now I have something to look forward to when I get back home
i cant wait to get mine.
Not sure why everyone is so excited about a Fantasy piece. Cool, no doubt, but just something feels weird about buying into it.
For those of us born after 1964, this may be the closest we will ever get to the experience of getting a brand new silver circulating (albeit you don't find Morgans or Peace dollars in circulation any more) coin.
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You guys can call it whatever. IMO, it is counterfeiting.
Not a counterfeit if it was never minted....Cheers, RickO
A completely bogus argument. There are many counterfeit U.S. coins that were never minted in genuine form. Start with the 1787 Flowing Hair half dollar, skip to the late date Capped Bust half dollars, go to the 1923-D and 1930-D dimes and top it off with the 1944 plain Henning nickel. There are others.
here we go again. i like mine too. congrats.
So, are any of those examples of genuine altered US Mint coins with fantasy dates not intended to deceive?
That wasn't the question at all, was it?
I believe the total mintage on this coin is 1,964. Some of the 1975 Eisenhower dollars only had a mintage of like 150 - 200. It will be interesting to see which one's are more sought after in a few years.
there's a lot more morgan collectors.
"new silver circulating coin" ??? Only the Mint can circulate money.
@CaptHenway ...Point taken Capt......however, the definition of counterfeit is -
1. made in imitation so as to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine; not genuine; forged:
So I made my statement based on that...It cannot be an imitation (it was never made), it is not being passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine.
I do see your point, but based on that, I stand by my statement. Cheers, RickO
As do I, using the exact words written by both of us.
TD
The intent element would only be potentially relevant to a criminal prosecution. What difference does intent matter as to what we label the coin?
There is no intent to deceive, therefore it fails the definition of counterfeit. Cheers, RickO
"there's a lot more morgan collectors."
That's what I was thinking, it could drive the price higher on the Morgan's than the lower mintage Eisenhower's.