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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Almost a dozen of you have messaged me and I truly appreciate that. A great group of coin friends post here in the DC thread.

    Here is my ANACS order that was stolen by a UPS employee. An empty box (not damaged) was delivered to me. I refused delivery. I have also included the 6 Ebay listing I was sent. There is one more, the Oregon Trail piece. I have not located the remaining 2 pieces.

    Here are 6 of them
    https://ebay.com/itm/385438018148

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420757108

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438016292

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438014105

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420751424

    https://ebay.com/itm/204254439588

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    felinfoelfelinfoel Posts: 391 ✭✭✭✭

    Note that the ANACS numbers match @pcgscacgold's order with ANACS. Those are the same coins.

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ANACS has been called, Doug at Numismatic crimes was informed when stolen and again yesterday. Not sure where they take it next.

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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,705 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has the ebay seller been contacted? Any response?

    Many happy BST transactions
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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like this story will have a good ending.
    Great job by everybody involved... :)

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2023 9:59AM

    @pcgscacgold said:
    Almost a dozen of you have messaged me and I truly appreciate that. A great group of coin friends post here in the DC thread.

    Here is my ANACS order that was stolen by a UPS employee. An empty box (not damaged) was delivered to me. I refused delivery. I have also included the 6 Ebay listing I was sent. There is one more, the Oregon Trail piece. I have not located the remaining 2 pieces.

    Here are 6 of them
    https://ebay.com/itm/385438018148

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420757108

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438016292

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438014105

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420751424

    https://ebay.com/itm/204254439588

    The "seller" has 62K+ feedbacks. Makes me wonder who else's items have been sold by him/her?

    7347726 Oregon Trail has been spotted
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/385437999578?hash=item59bde521da:g:bp4AAOSwOuRj9~8-

    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2023 2:46PM

    @pcgscacgold said:
    Almost a dozen of you have messaged me and I truly appreciate that. A great group of coin friends post here in the DC thread.

    Here is my ANACS order that was stolen by a UPS employee. An empty box (not damaged) was delivered to me. I refused delivery. I have also included the 6 Ebay listing I was sent. There is one more, the Oregon Trail piece. I have not located the remaining 2 pieces.

    Here are 6 of them
    https://ebay.com/itm/385438018148





    Added some photos.

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    NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 337 ✭✭✭✭

    @pcgscacgold said:
    Almost a dozen of you have messaged me and I truly appreciate that. A great group of coin friends post here in the DC thread.

    Here is my ANACS order that was stolen by a UPS employee. An empty box (not damaged) was delivered to me. I refused delivery. I have also included the 6 Ebay listing I was sent. There is one more, the Oregon Trail piece. I have not located the remaining 2 pieces.

    Here are 6 of them
    https://ebay.com/itm/385438018148

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420757108

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438016292

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438014105

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420751424

    https://ebay.com/itm/204254439588

    Thanks for posting these stolen pieces for your friends here to know…….. and I’m thinking everyone here is like me…… Hoping you win all these back in the auction for less than you originally paid ‼️‼️‼️🎯👍👍
    Needless to say, I’m not bidding on these pieces to give you a chance to get these back, and hope the evil done to you turns into a blessing ‼️‼️‼️👍👍🎯🎯‼️‼️‼️
    Good luck my friend 🍀👍‼️‼️

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    COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:

    The "seller" has 62K+ feedbacks. Makes me wonder who else's items have been sold by him/her?...

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    Maybe the Seller is cooperating with an investigation to catch the thief -- which might explain why the ebay listings are still active.

    Anyway, I'm watching to see how this plays out. Hopefully pcgscacgold is able to keep us informed.

    Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Nickpatton said:

    @pcgscacgold said:
    Almost a dozen of you have messaged me and I truly appreciate that. A great group of coin friends post here in the DC thread.

    Here is my ANACS order that was stolen by a UPS employee. An empty box (not damaged) was delivered to me. I refused delivery. I have also included the 6 Ebay listing I was sent. There is one more, the Oregon Trail piece. I have not located the remaining 2 pieces.

    Here are 6 of them
    https://ebay.com/itm/385438018148

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420757108

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438016292

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438014105

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420751424

    https://ebay.com/itm/204254439588

    Thanks for posting these stolen pieces for your friends here to know…….. and I’m thinking everyone here is like me…… Hoping you win all these back in the auction for less than you originally paid ‼️‼️‼️🎯👍👍
    Needless to say, I’m not bidding on these pieces to give you a chance to get these back, and hope the evil done to you turns into a blessing ‼️‼️‼️👍👍🎯🎯‼️‼️‼️
    Good luck my friend 🍀👍‼️‼️

    Agree. These really should find their way back to the right home.

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ANACS is/was a great company to work with. Paul worked hard to find these at the time but UPS did little to track them down. ANACS made a very fair offer and I posted that over a year ago.

    At this point ANACS is considered the victim (from what I was told). I have contacted Doug and the hope is he is tracking things down. It has been a year and 3 months so Doug said very hard to track changing of hands.

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears the thief has decided to hang onto the 1884-CC cancelled die and the 2021-S Antiqued piece. That means only 4 out of the 5 coin set is available and 2 out of the 3 1884 cancelled die set.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2023 11:34AM

    @zippcity said:
    Newest addition.




    Looks great! Congrats!

    This is one of my favorite pieces that Dan has made. The size, heft, design, colors are all wonderful.

    and no I do not have my nails done professionally. :disappointed:

    The nails too!

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    ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know who that seller is. I have his info. PM sent.

    Z

    @pcgscacgold said:
    Almost a dozen of you have messaged me and I truly appreciate that. A great group of coin friends post here in the DC thread.

    Here is my ANACS order that was stolen by a UPS employee. An empty box (not damaged) was delivered to me. I refused delivery. I have also included the 6 Ebay listing I was sent. There is one more, the Oregon Trail piece. I have not located the remaining 2 pieces.

    Here are 6 of them
    https://ebay.com/itm/385438018148

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420757108

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438016292

    https://ebay.com/itm/385438014105

    https://ebay.com/itm/314420751424

    https://ebay.com/itm/204254439588

    @pcgscacgold said:
    The outpouring of support from this group reminds me why I check in here every day (well, many times each day). I have received messages telling me you will not bid to help me win them back or you would bid and send them to me if you win. I even had a person way back when this happened offer to gift me their graded extras (you know who you are and I remember you because of it).

    I had bought the set of 5 Zoins coins that he did with DC. One of them is not up for sale (Antiqued one). I had bought the set of three 1884 cancelled dies. The CC has been kept back. I still have the 2 off center strikes (they arrived after I sent these to ANACS).

    I have thought things over and I have decided that many of you will benefit from some of these more then I will. A few of you need one or two of these to complete the set. One of them is/was the only one sold. I will not get the set back because all are not being sold, but maybe someone else can because you need one of these.

    I want people from here to get the coins. I want you to win them and show them off. I will be the first to "Like" your post. I moved on from this and feel funny trying to bid to win them back. It is also not a planned expense (in excess of $2000 if they just get back to issue price). I believe some will exceed that. I am not sure if ANACS plans to work to get them back.

    I was lucky that morning at 4am to be there at the right time to grab these from Daniel. Let's get them back into DC collector hands. I know you do not need my permission to win these but know that I want you to. I hope that makes sense. Sorry for the long post.

    I received 7 Daniel Carr Morgans this week. I am so happy........

    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2023 12:03PM

    If anyone is considering buying these, make sure you understand the law for where you live, so you know the potential consequences.

    The following is for California:

    https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/496/

    Shouse Law Group said:
    Penal Code § 496 PC – Receiving Stolen Property – California Law

    Penal Code § 496 PC defines the crime of receiving stolen property as buying, receiving, concealing, selling or withholding any property that you know to have been obtained through theft or extortion. The offense can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony and is punishable by up to 3 years in jail.

    The language of the code section reads as follows:

    496. (a) Every person who buys or receives any property that has been stolen or that has been obtained in any manner constituting theft or extortion, knowing the property to be so stolen or obtained, or who conceals, sells, withholds, or aids in concealing, selling, or withholding any property from the owner, knowing the property to be so stolen or obtained, shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year, or imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170. However, if the value of the property does not exceed nine hundred fifty dollars ($950), the offense shall be a misdemeanor, punishable only by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, if such person has no prior convictions for an offense specified in clause (iv) of subparagraph (C) of paragraph (2) of subdivision (e) of Section 667 or for an offense requiring registration pursuant to subdivision (c) of Section 290.

    Examples

    • helping a friend hide jewelry that was stolen from a store.
    • buying a cell phone while knowing that it was taken from someone else.
    • selling “hot” goods on eBay.

    Defenses

    You can fight theft offense criminal charges by arguing:

    • you had no knowledge that the goods were taken,
    • you had innocent intent, and/or
    • you did not “receive” the taken items.

    Penalties

    A violation of this code section is a wobbler offense under California criminal law. This means that a prosecutor can charge it as either:

    • a misdemeanor, or
    • a felony.

    A misdemeanor conviction is punishable by imprisonment in county jail for up to one year.

    A felony conviction is punishable by custody in state prison for up to three years.

    In lieu of jail time, a judge can award either:

    • misdemeanor (or summary) probation, or
    • felony (or formal) probation.
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    ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the sellers "description" of @pcgscacgold 's stolen items. Speaks volumes.

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    NEW POLICY: SHIPPING TO DOMESTIC ADDRESSES ONLY. NO INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING.

    Your want a description? Here’s your description:

    I’m selling coins and currency to serious buyers who want good deals and don’t need to be coddled the entire way.If that’s you, join the fun.If not, just keep on looking elsewhere because you’re not worth by trouble.

    Answers to common questions:

    DOMESTIC Shipping is FREE, I still get Questions every single day from folks who can’t seem to figure out the giant FREE SHIPPING Banner on every page.

    FOREIGN Shipping: NOPE

    Commonly asked questions:

    Q. “Is this coin (Insert precious metal here)”
    A.You figure it out.If you don’t know what you are looking at, do some research.

    Q.Do You Combine Shipping?
    A.Can’t you read?

    Q. I bought this my mistake, can you cancel?
    A.I’ll go ahead and start that unpaid item case for you

    Q.I’d like to return a TPG (PCGS, NGC, ANACS, PMG) certified item
    A.Welcome to my BBL List and various other industry blacklists of my choosing (There are FEW exceptions, I have encountered misattributions on more obscure coins that significantly affect value more frequently.That’s legitimate)

    Q. Why are you so mean?
    A. Because a person really develops some think skin after years of putting up with nonsense. I provide Numismatic items at no reserve, with plenty of bargain opportunities, I expect buyers to put forth some effort in taking the time to research the items they are buying. This is a hobby, it’s supposed to be fun.99.999% of folks have that figured out. You can to.

    Q.I’d like to return this item because of a genuine issue (Wrong item sent, it happens, nobody’s perfect. There are other real reasons)
    A.Go ahead and initiate a return using the returns center, you will receive a label at our cost and be refunded upon receipt AND Inspection.

    Q. I’d like to return an item for a frivolous reason (I already had one, my dog/cat/toddler placed an absentee bid).
    A.You’d be surprised how many dogs/cats/toddler’s know how to login, search for items that their parents routinely buy, and go through the four step process of placing a bid.You’d be really surprised how many dogs/cats/toddlers seem to know the exact market price of a coin for that matter. Just cut the baloney. Expect a few unkind words if I think your story don’t hold water.

    Q.I have a resale license, can you remove the sales tax?
    A.For California, ONLY If we have a SIGNED PHYSICAL COPY of your resale card on file and it passes verification and is up to date.

    For the new Interstate sales tax. As of February 28, I CANNOT Remove out of state sales tax. That will likely change at some point. Please refer to the Wayfair vs. South Dakota supreme court ruling and it’s repercussions. This issue is big and not easily resolved at the moment.

    Q. I’m located outside the US, Why do I not see tracking immediately?
    _A. Because we don't ship internationally anymore. All International order will summarily be canceled__

    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

    Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2023 12:08PM

    @ZoidMeister said:
    Here is the sellers "description" of @pcgscacgold 's stolen items. Speaks volumes.

    Tough love? The seller does have 62,179 positive feedback at 99.8% positive. I wonder what kind of questions they get for volume like that.

    https://www.ebay.com/str/ufomechanix

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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2023 12:26PM

    I just got a bid cancellation notice on one of the stolen pieces I had bid on.

    Many happy BST transactions
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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,705 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like all the items have been pulled.

    Many happy BST transactions
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2023 12:38PM

    @cheezhed said:
    I just got a bid cancellation notice on one of the stolen pieces I had bid on.

    Good to know @cheezhed!

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkid855 said:

    @pcgscacgold said:
    The outpouring of support from this group reminds me why I check in here every day (well, many times each day). I have received messages telling me you will not bid to help me win them back or you would bid and send them to me if you win. I even had a person way back when this happened offer to gift me their graded extras (you know who you are and I remember you because of it).

    I had bought the set of 5 Zoins coins that he did with DC. One of them is not up for sale (Antiqued one). I had bought the set of three 1884 cancelled dies. The CC has been kept back. I still have the 2 off center strikes (they arrived after I sent these to ANACS).

    I have thought things over and I have decided that many of you will benefit from some of these more then I will. A few of you need one or two of these to complete the set. One of them is/was the only one sold. I will not get the set back because all are not being sold, but maybe someone else can because you need one of these.

    I want people from here to get the coins. I want you to win them and show them off. I will be the first to "Like" your post. I moved on from this and feel funny trying to bid to win them back. It is also not a planned expense (in excess of $2000 if they just get back to issue price). I believe some will exceed that. I am not sure if ANACS plans to work to get them back.

    I was lucky that morning at 4am to be there at the right time to grab these from Daniel. Let's get them back into DC collector hands. I know you do not need my permission to win these but know that I want you to. I hope that makes sense. Sorry for the long post.

    I received 7 Daniel Carr Morgans this week. I am so happy........

    I know the seller and reached out to him on Facebook. He pulled the listings and is going to talk to Paul at ANACS.

    This is a great result. Thanks @coinkid855!

    This needs to be cleared up with ANACS one way or another since they appear to be the injured party in the theft.

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, ANACS owns the coins. I have emailed them with information. I hope they get it cleared up and find the remaining two items.
    Thanks @coinkid855

    Glad someone was able to contact them.

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, I am so happy for this [looks to be] result. Great!

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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    D808LFD808LF Posts: 415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What was the reasoning behind the P-mint Peace dollar having the 'Broken Sword' reverse and the D & S not?

    fka renman95, Sep 2005, 7,000 posts

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    SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @D808LF said:
    What was the reasoning behind the P-mint Peace dollar having the 'Broken Sword' reverse and the D & S not?

    My guess is that it continues the 'no mint mark associated with the Broken Sword' theme that was established with 1917 through MXMXXI. There are no broken sword reverses of Dan's that bear a MM.

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
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    D808LFD808LF Posts: 415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SPalladino said:

    @D808LF said:
    What was the reasoning behind the P-mint Peace dollar having the 'Broken Sword' reverse and the D & S not?

    My guess is that it continues the 'no mint mark associated with the Broken Sword' theme that was established with 1917 through MXMXXI. There are no broken sword reverses of Dan's that bear a MM.

    That would be my guess as well.

    fka renman95, Sep 2005, 7,000 posts

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @drfish said:
    Not new - but goes with recent seated Dollar overstrikes

    Really like that one oz gold piece 😃

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    NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 337 ✭✭✭✭

    @robec said:
    I’m

    How much does it cost to have pictures made⁉️

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    D808LFD808LF Posts: 415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ANACS: New month, new grading special. Last month was US Silver Dollars. Have yet to see anything, should be DC Dollars. ;)

    fka renman95, Sep 2005, 7,000 posts

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    Hey there! I accidentally purchased two sets of the 2022 Daniel Carr Peace Dollars, so I'm just letting everyone know I have one set up for sale. They are listed individually on eBay or I'm happy to offer them here as well, particularly if someone is interested in buying the whole set. Here or eBay, either way. Thanks!


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    53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭

    asherjackson7: List them on Buy/Sell/Trade with your pricing.

    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
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    NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 337 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2023 4:00PM





    I won this one in auction last week, and not totally sure which one I have,(this is why it’s so important not to loose Dan’s coin flip certificates), I’m thinking that it’s a PL plated.By the way, Dan, these are “ too kool “, there’s hologram even with the plating, you’re amazing ‼️👍🎯👀‼️‼️

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Nickpatton said:




    I won this one in auction last week, and not totally sure which one I have,(this is why it’s so important not to loose Dan’s coin flip certificates), I’m thinking that it’s a PL plated.By the way, Dan, these are “ too kool “, there’s hologram even with the plating, you’re amazing ‼️👍🎯👀‼️‼️

    That is the silver "MS Plate" version (selective black-rhodium & gold plating on satin finish).
    One of 13 produced like that.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2023 4:46PM

    @dcarr said:

    @Nickpatton said:




    I won this one in auction last week, and not totally sure which one I have,(this is why it’s so important not to loose Dan’s coin flip certificates), I’m thinking that it’s a PL plated.By the way, Dan, these are “ too kool “, there’s hologram even with the plating, you’re amazing ‼️👍🎯👀‼️‼️

    That is the silver "MS Plate" version (selective black-rhodium & gold plating on satin finish).
    One of 13 produced like that.

    Great info Dan!

    This is a very rare KOTCT piece!

    Congrats @Nickpatton!

    It has a great pedigree to Tom Hallenbeck too!

    I just spoke with Tom and Ken at the ANA in Phoenix. Also got Ken to sign my copy of the Lesher Book!

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    NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 337 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, Dan 👍

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Twobitcollector said:
    Thanks to ZoidMeister this is on it's way back home.
    I had sold it to him a few years ago and I'm happy to be able to buy it back.'

    Here's my original image.

    Glad you got it back!

    These are wonderful coins with a great look!

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