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TigersFan2
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I looked up this seller on Ebay and noticed that almost all his PCGS coins are toned with multi-colors. AT or NT? Is he toning in the PCGS slabs?
Lots of rainbow toners in PCGS slabs
Lots of rainbow toners in PCGS slabs
I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
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I was wondering who the latest sucker was.
If you're buying coins via the internet then why settle for bad images that make you guess what the coin will look like when it arrives?
This is unfortunate
Wonky too.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
In the auction listings, he states, "I am a founding member of the Toned Coin Collector's Society." My question... Is the Toned Coin Collector's Society real or does it have a membership of 1? A Google search comes up completely empty.
this was posted ATS in 2004 and had some very well respected members at that time....Jim
If you are interested in joining and/or participating in our collecting and educational activities, please either PM me or respond to this thread. (PMs will be appreciated as I can review them even after this thread is long gone).
The following are some of the TCCS Founders and their forum handles (I think most are PCGS forum names, some may be the same on these boards)- (if I have left you name off this list, it is not intentional, please PM me and I’ll make the necessary additions).
Bryan Sonnier GSAGuy
Bryan Orsborn ToneKiller
Ron Sirna Newmismatist
Jason Stevens JBSteven
Dave Schweitz MS68
Marshall Rose Gemtone65
Tom Bush TomB
Tom Turissini BigMoose
Jack Kelly Toned dollars
Andy Kimmel
Here’s a draft of the Mission Statement of the Toned Coin Collectors Society (TCCS):
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To advance the numismatic knowledge of toned coins through educational, historical and scientific means; to assist in bringing together persons interested in collecting toned coins; to promote greater popular interest in collecting toned coins and in the numismatic study of toned coins; to aid its members through the study, acquisition and exhibition of toned coins; and to assist or encourage other worthy numismatic causes. The TCCS shall encourage and promote interest in the collecting and exhibiting of toned coins, conduct educational seminars and publish information regarding toned coins, cultivate friendly relations between society members, other collectors who collect toned coins and dealers of toned coins, and encourage and assist new collectors who are interested in collecting toned coins.
Additional concepts of the Toned Coin Collectors Society would include the following:
1. To assist collectors in identifying, acquiring and preserving, original toned coins, with an emphasis on those toned coins that are particularly eye appealing.
2. To provide information to collectors and potential collectors of toned coins on such topics as pricing, the concepts of acceptable eye appealing toned coins and sources of available toned coins.
3. To provide a means for collectors who are interested in acquiring original toned Coins to interact with dealers and other collectors who have toned coins for sale.
4. To maintain archival data of different categories and classes of original toned coins, with emphasis on the most spectacularly toned pieces.
5. To assist and provide research as to the nature and characteristics of original toned coins, including the different sources of toning, the toning process itself and the variations in toning characteristics.
6. To assist and provide research as to the availability and variations of color, grade availability, including eye appeal factors by date and mint for particular series of coins (like Morgan dollars, Franklin Halves, etc).
7. To facilitate the exchange of information among dealers and collectors regarding the above enumerated aspects of originally toned coins so as to enhance the collecting and study of originally toned Coins.
8. To assist and encourage the collecting of toned coins by working in conjunction with the ANA and the ANA’s Young Numismatist program and to provide resource information and examples of original toned coins.
9. To attend, participate in and conduct educational seminars to teach and assist those persons who are interested in learning about all aspects of collecting toned coins.
This is a work in process, so your thoughts, suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
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In the past I had bought many coins from this seller that were imaged very well in all cases an accurate picture of the coin in hand. The sellers images as of today are not professional and are very poor who knows what the coin really looks like. Speculation on my part but the person imaging in the past is not on staff now due to some perhaps obvious reasons.
sad as the seller had such a good history and a few of my favorite coins came from this firm.
Don't know this seller nor have any connection to him or his sales organization, but
this was posted ATS in 2004 and had some very well respected members at that time....Jim
If you are interested in joining and/or participating in our collecting and educational activities, please either PM me or respond to this thread. (PMs will be appreciated as I can review them even after this thread is long gone).
The following are some of the TCCS Founders and their forum handles (I think most are PCGS forum names, some may be the same on these boards)- (if I have left you name off this list, it is not intentional, please PM me and I’ll make the necessary additions).
Bryan Sonnier GSAGuy
Bryan Orsborn ToneKiller
Ron Sirna Newmismatist
Jason Stevens JBSteven
Dave Schweitz MS68
Marshall Rose Gemtone65
Tom Bush TomB
Tom Turissini BigMoose
Jack Kelly Toned dollars
Andy Kimmel
The person behind the Ebay seller "KryptoniteComics" isn't listed in that list of TCCS founders, yet he says he was in his Ebay auctions.
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Hope his consignor gets paid.
And yeah, those pics... are not good.
They won't, just keeps taking them very upstanding of him!
Isn't he catching up with his consignors albeit very slowly?
well please tell me he is I need it I consigned in March and April found out my nightmare in May.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
That '83 Morgan is stunningly man made.
And I'm sure the high bidder will learn when he sends it to PCGS or NGC for grading, assuming he does.
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I do not understand this thread. The seller linked sells for themselves and on consignment. I seriously doubt anything was done to consigned coins. The pictures seem the same to me, just eBay thumbnail pictures have lower resolution to allow for more advertisements and sponsored links. When a list of SOME of founding members of an organization does not include a person, it does not mean that person was not involved. When in doubt, I look at the locked 'rules' thread to see what I am missing ->
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Nobody is attacking this seller. I asked whether the coins are AT or NT as almost all the coins are PCGS holders with suspicious toning. And yes, there is some "depth" to this seller as there have been some issues regarding integrity.
ironically, i just dug out the goodman book. 2nd edition. glad i did.
my images and efforts have been less than desired in recent months.
it is up to me to change this.
unfortunate to see the listings i did. will hope he turns it around given what seemed to be a big following of buyers/consignors.
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https://imdb.com/name/nm1835107/
My guess is: He sold his camera, and is shooting on his phone. Still better photos than I shoot most days.
Things must be very bad for him financially to sell his camera equipment, which he used (at least at one time) as a source of income. I sure do miss the days from years ago when I could mail all of my stuff off to him, forget about it, and receive a PayPal payment in a couple of weeks.