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starting up in the coin collecting hobby

Howdy all,

I'm getting into the hobby and wanted to see if any of you have any suggestions of what a new collector should be looking for or tips in where/how to start. I'm really interested in indian head pennies, barber coins and the old shield nickels. I don't have many coin stores in my area so short of eBay where else can I look? Anyway, thanks for reading and I wish you all luck in finding the coins your looking for.


Josh
The world meets no one half way. If you want it you have to go get it.

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The first thing to buy is...............................a book.



    Learn to grade or ONLY buy NGC or PCGS certified coins after reading all you can.



    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HI Josh, welcome to the forum. While I don't collect the series that interest you, there are many folks here who do, who can help guide you to sources for these coins. Have fun with your collecting.
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. Most people jump in and make a ton of mistakes before they either get frustrated and leave or start asking for help. You'll get plenty of useful advice, but I'd just recommend education as the cornerstone of enjoying the hobby and avoiding costly mistakes. How you get it is up to you, but here's some things I've found to be useful:



    1. This forum. There is a random assortment of characters here and not every bit of advice is good. That said, there are a number of world-class experts who frequent these boards and most of them are happy to help a new collector.



    2. Local clubs. If you can find one, this is a great place to make connections with fellow collectors. A good mentor can help.



    3. Find a few trusted dealers. How do you know which ones to trust? Sometimes it's trial and error, some of it depends on what you want to collect. For instance, if you want to collect Peace dollars in a certain price range, I can give you the names of a few guys off the top of my head. If you want to collect Civil War tokens, I'm not your guy. Nothing is better than working with a great dealer. Nothing is worse than getting swindled by a bad one.



    4. Books. There is a common saying "Buy the book before the coin." It's good advice.



    5. Shows. Going to a few local or national shows is a fantastic way to see thousands of coins, meet dealers, find fellow collectors, and just get a general understanding of how the hobby works. Looking at auction lots is a great way to view a ton of coins and calibrate your grading eye.



    6. Start with an emphasis on inexpensive fun stuff that is easy to sell if necessary and then work up to nicer, expensive stuff if you must, but don't forget to have fun.



    7. Learn how to take great photos so we can give feedback on what you're buying and vicariously enjoy what you find.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i always recommend people get a current redbook for info.



    ignore values generally.



    dollar-for-dollar, i doubt one can do better.



    regular redbook

    professional redbook

    mega redbook



    in that order, for newcomers.



    welcome and read a lot.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome, Josh. You'll find everything you need right here at pcgs. This forum is also a huge help.image
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  • Welcome,

    As mentioned above and in no particular order because they all serve a valuable purpose, Books ,clubs and coin shows.

    And I'm gonna ad dabble a little on some low dollar items and then try to sell them! That's how you will really learn. If your buying problem coins , over graded coins , cleaned coins etc , now is the time to learn(while your spending small $)

    Good luck. Keep your focus initially to a few series as you mentioned and learn those well.

    Have fun
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Start with a 20th century type set. Skip all the ultra modern issues for now,

    and go slow on the 19th century coins until you learn about coins, grading, and the market.



    Welcome to the world of numismatics. You can't buy everything, so you'll have to choose..

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: DollarAfterDollar
    The first thing to buy is...............................a book.

    Learn to grade or ONLY buy NGC or PCGS certified coins after reading all you can.



    image

    Welcome.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,274 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ask a lot of questions here.

    Get a grading guide.

    Learn that there are quality coins and lousy coins in every grade and price point.

    Don't buy anything you don't understand.

    Haste makes waste.

    Go to some coin shows, look at a lot of stuff, ask questions, and remember which dealers help you and which ones blow you off.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Use the educational features of this website and learn to grade and spot damage, cleaning and alterations. Don't spend any money on coins until you feel confident in your abilities.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Go to some coin shows, look at a lot of stuff, ask questions, and remember which dealers help you and which ones blow you off.


    I like this one

  • achteyachtey Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
    wow, thanks everyone for the warm welcome. I appreciate all of the tips and ideas. Keep them coming. I don't want to just throw away money on coins that are worthless or are overpriced. I'll be buying a red book to utilize the knowledge it holds. Thanks again for the kind words.



    Josh
    The world meets no one half way. If you want it you have to go get it.
  • 1. Start simple with lower cost, lower grade coins. Take your time and learn from these coins. Don't try to jump straight to high priced coins. You don't know much and you'll probably pay to much or not know what you're buying.

    2. Join the ANA and see if there are any coin clubs near you. It's important to find a few other coin collectors near you that you can discuss coins with and learn from. Real people are better than a forum interaction.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome!
    I would say go to as many shows as you can and find what you love. Research it and figure out what aspect of if you want to collect.

    Then 3-4 months later and you're burned out on that start set 2 of something completely different.

    I say that 2nd part jokingly, but for most of us that's how it goes.

    I started collecting just for bullion, now I specialize in Dimes. And now I'm a full time coin dealer
  • KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome aboard Josh. Its good to hear that we have new collectors entering our hobby. There are a ton of tips that anyone here can give you, and all so far are great. One of the most important concepts that you can learn is that there is no substitute for knowledge and experience in numismatics.



    A good way for any beginner to learn is to spend $40 and pickup a Redbook and some washington quarter albums (vol 1, 2, and state quarters). These can be purchased at Barnes and Noble if there is not a shop close by. pickup a roll of quarters from the bank on the way home and see how quick you can fill your albums. Keep an eye out for coins that look nice. If you can learn to be picky and observant of the what you are handling, you can be well on your way to a fun and rewarding experience.



    Best of luck to you!
  • Originally posted by: BryceM
    Wow. Most people jump in and make a ton of mistakes....

    Wow is right. Great advice. I'd add a suggestion to buy a loupe or a combo 5X/10X lens, to see things some sellers might hope you don't see, and eventually a 20X to see fine detail that might expose a fake. (added): An enlarged photo is nice, but no match for a 3D eyeball view.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome aboard Josh. Really great advice offered in the preceding posts... You said you were getting a Redbook...good, and I would recommend getting the MegaBook right away....tremendous reference material. Enjoy the hobby... you will likely make a couple of mistakes early on, do not let that discourage you - we have all made mistakes. Cheers, RickO
  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All great advice but how new to the hobby are you? Under your avatar it says you joined in 2003. I'm not trying to be rude, just curious.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Learn what "cleaned" coins look like. For the series you're interested in most of the raw coins worth more than $100 have been cleaned and have little value! Purchase a couple of loupes (5X and 10X magnification) so you can reall see the coins.



    Learn what "natural" surfaces on an original coin should like like. Become suspicious of coins that look a little off.



    I believe the best way to learn to buy coins properly is to try and sell some after about a year. You'll learn a lot aboutsmart purchaing that way.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My advice for the new collector is to start with early silver commemorative halves. Each one is different and they are fun to learn about.

    No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left

  • achteyachtey Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: gtstang
    All great advice but how new to the hobby are you? Under your avatar it says you joined in 2003. I'm not trying to be rude, just curious.


    Yeah, I joined the forum way back to get some info to help sell a coin and a bank note for a family member. I also lurk from time to time because I collect autographs so it's kind of nice to see what others are saying. But never really got into the hobby. I just recently started exploring the hobby while looking to branch out from the autographs and have liked looking at the older coins. I just like the idea of where they have been, what have they seen and who has owned them. I will probably never be a guy who has a set of MS morgans or anything like that but I would like to enjoy seeing some coins that have some history.



    Josh
    The world meets no one half way. If you want it you have to go get it.
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: gtstang
    All great advice but how new to the hobby are you? Under your avatar it says you joined in 2003. I'm not trying to be rude, just curious.


    ...probably a card collector or sports memorabilia collector...Welcome to The US Coin Forum! Get your feet wet and don't let the smile leave your face in numismatics...ever image

    Edit: maybe I should have just read page 2 but either way image
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a shop and a lot of the coins you want, but that's not the point. Spam can be delightful.
  • scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭
    Good luck!

    For me it's looking at as many coins as you can to get a feel for cleaning/damage, original surfaces, grade, etc.

    Diversification of purchases is probably helpful here - don't just rely on one local shop and start buying a bunch.

    In-person shows are probably where it's at in your case if you have the chance.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you can join a local coin club and attend the meetings. Get a Red Book. If you like Indian heads, get a blue Whitman folder and put a set together. Don't worry too much about condition just get "nice ones". Warning the 1877 is expensive. Go to coin shows. Find something that really jumps out at you and learn about it. There are tons of books and a lot online. Don't spend big money.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Find a mentor. Exercise patience.



    Welcome!!!



    mark
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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love the 'Fatty' card !!! Very cool......
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Learn as much as you can first. Try not to buy anything for at least 6 months....ideally a year. It will pay off. Hey, you already let 13 years go by without learning a thing about coins. So what's another 12 months to get up to speed?



    The tuition is cheap if you don't tread carefully. Few dealers are your friend when it comes to seeing you get optimized for your coin dollars spent. Don't feel obligated to spend money with every dealer who strikes up a conversation. Whatever you do end up looking to buy....try to have seen at least a a few dozen to a 100 similar examples before you jump in. You want each and every purchase to be somewhat exciting, fairly hard to find (ie ruling out 19 inferior examples before settling on #20)., and with a logical reason to be in your collection. Don't buy just anything. We've all gotten into trouble doing that in our early years.



    Try to see thousands of graded coin (in PCGS and NGC holders) over the next 6 months. The more you see, the better chance you'll figure out what area appeals to you. This forum has 15 years of recorded history that covers any topic you could ever think of. The answer is already here....somewhere. Feel free to search and read older forum posts.
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First off, WELCOME!!!

    In order, I would recommend:

    1) HAVE FUN!!!

    2) Buy a Red book and READ it before doing anything else (obviously there are parts you can skim).

    3) See if there is a local coin club you can join.

    4) Buy a 5 X loupe.

    5) Look at coins, hopefully by going to shows, or further down the list, by going to local coin shops (called B&M's on these boards... stands for Brick and Mortar) in order to see coins. Long term a local B&M MAY be better than going to shows as far as pricing goes, IF you have a reliable, honest dealer, but going to shows is generally a better way to see a wide variety of coins.

    6) Register at Heritage Auctions. It costs nothing, but allows you to look at their auction archives, both to see coins and to see what they go for. Be aware these coins tend to be more expensive coins.

    7) Figure out your collecting goals... are you interested in a specific Type of coin, or are you interested in putting together a US Type Set (e.g. one coin of each Type of US coin created)? Collecting goals tend to shift over time, so go with the flow, but don't be a total scatterbrain.

    8) Collect for enjoyment, NOT for financial gain. For the VAST majority of us, coin collecting is a HOBBY. You MAY make money, you MAY lose money. Along those lines, spend only DISPOSABLE income on coins. At the end of the day, this allows you to sleep well at night, and enjoy what you do have.

    9) Which brings us back to, HAVE FUN!!!



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