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  • BatpigBatpig Posts: 460 ✭✭✭
    Wow.
  • JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! +1.
  • ElvisPElvisP Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭
    One ugly 8.
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chance this gets a certified high end sticker? I am going to say no way!
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That card was graded many years ago. In my experience, PSA is tougher on centering now vs back then, but that card may also be a mechanical error.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,422 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is not a pretty card. Wow.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    Wonder if 4SC sent that card?

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • travis ttravis t Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    Good place to hit if you like sliders. Check his other offerings. Same thing. Now would be a wise time to consider just how much of a shift in interpretation of grading has occurred over the years. Anyone who thinks PSA hasn't become more rigid in their standards hasn't been paying enough attention.



    The earlier stuff that sells also alters the VCP scale accordingly. This is not to say that all the older graded stuff is questionable. There are actually nice finds on the upside, too. Most sellers just don't want to dump those.
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    11456940: 1975 Topps Brett PSA 8
    11456941: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456942: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456943: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456944: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 9
    11456945: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8.5 (would've been on a bump/resub)
    11456946: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456947: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456948: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456949: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456950: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 9
    11456951: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456952: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456953: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456954: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456955: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456956: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456957: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456958: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456959: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456960: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456961: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456962: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456963: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456964: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456965: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456966: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456967: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 7 (!!!!!!)
    11456968: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456969: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456970: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456971: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456972: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456973: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456974: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456975: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456976: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456977: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456978: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456979: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456980: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456981: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456982: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456983: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456984: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456985: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 7 (!!!!!!)
    11456986: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8.5 (another bump)
    11456987: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8.5 (another bump)
    11456988: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456989: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456990: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 7 (!!!!!!)
    11456991: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456992: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456993: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8.5 (another bump)
    11456994: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8.5 (another bump)
    11456995: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456996: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456997: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456998: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11456999: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457000: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457001: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457002: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457003: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457004: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457005: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457006: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457007: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457008: NOTHING
    11457009: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457010: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8.5 (another bump)
    11457011: 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan PSA 8
    11457012: 1976 Topps #1 Hank Aaron PSA 9 (WOW)
    11457013: 1976 Topps #1 Hank Aaron PSA 8

    I can't continue (it keeps going!) if anyone else wants to pick it up feel free.
    My eBay Store =)

    "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How can you tell it is a bump?
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Dpeck100
    How can you tell it is a bump?


    Because these were all originally graded before the half point system was implemented. PSA doesn't change the cert number, so someone (either the original grader or a later purchaser) had to send them for a hump at one point.
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    "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JHS5120
    Originally posted by: Dpeck100
    How can you tell it is a bump?


    Because these were all originally graded before the half point system was implemented. PSA doesn't change the cert number, so someone (either the original grader or a later purchaser) had to send them for a hump at one point.


    Thanks for the reply. I knew they didn't change the cert so that is what threw me off.

  • travis ttravis t Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    Half point hump. This sheds new light.
  • acebandit1acebandit1 Posts: 1
    Wow. This card doesn't get a qualifier, but a lot cards with (st) or miscut are impossible to locate. Nice consistency PSA
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: rcmb3220

    this can't be right




    It looks about 85% right (and 15% left) to me! image
  • DragnetDragnet Posts: 636 ✭✭✭
    I've never seen PSA pay to downgrade a card, but I'd bet they'd do it for this one if only to save face (not that anyone would send this card in for a review)
  • JWBlueJWBlue Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
    Weird. I always thought cards graded in the old holders actually look better.
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    looks to me that this was a mechanical error that was not corrected. even when psa was more lenient on centering, they would not have passed this card especially considering the diamond/miscut cut
  • mb2005mb2005 Posts: 165 ✭✭
    The price seems right...they bought the card, not the holder
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: mb2005
    The price seems right...they bought the card, not the holder


    I show it at $28 with 4 days and 4 hours to go.

  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    10 o/c..LOL
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since his RC is plentiful?



    I think collectors view it as if it were 8OC - the kiss of death.



    When any RC or higher end HOF'er is 50/50? It always seems to command a premium IMO.
    Mike
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like bidders like the card. Current bid $161.50.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Dpeck100

    Looks like bidders like the card. Current bid $161.50.







    Only two bidders above $38 buying the flip.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • travis ttravis t Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    With secret identities. Stealth.
  • Panama Mutiny (Formerly lawyer05) Panama Mutiny (Formerly lawyer05) Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭
    u think 4 sharp gets better grades ?
    i COLLECT THESE
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  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: lawyer05
    u think 4 sharp gets better grades ?

    Personally, no, it's an illusion from volume and nice examples for the grade fly off the shelves at their prices while sliders sit for a long time.
    Who is the Golf Card Guy?
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