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1963 Proof set with a potentially nice Franklin! - UPDATED

cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
I was looking through the stock of a dealer friend of mine and came across this 1963 proof set. The half appears to have some nice frost. I will be removing it from the packaging later this evening and will post what it looks like then!

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UPDATE: The set was not in an envelope. Unfortunately, because of that, the coin became hairlined- I noticed it as soon as it came out of the packaging. Also, there is a milk spot next to the F of HALF. I gave it a quick bath in diluted EZ-Est. It's still an awesome-looking coin in-hand, especially after the dip!

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Post-Dip:
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Looks great and when you remove the haze from it, hope for a DCAM!
  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice pick up, looks like the dime might be cameo also.
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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have bought that set in a heartbeat.

    Looking forward to the pics.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They all look pretty nice.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can tell through the cello it's a lock DCAM.

    Great find!
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: fivecents
    I can tell through the cello it's a lock DCAM.

    Great find!



    Nothing is deadlock DCAM until it comes back printed on the label. Nice Frankie
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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The broken frost on the left side of the Liberty bell and the lack of frost on UNITED and RICA will probably keep it out of DCAM. But...it is an OUTSTANDING coin!
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  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Dippity Do-Daa!
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dip and ship......looks like a great Franklin.

    Good luck with it.
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FUN looking piece! Nice Newp!
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    when I opened the thread I thought 66DCAM in the cello, out with the hairlines I think 64DCAM. Franklins dated 1963 are easier than any of the 1950's but still hard to find. this is a keeper for sure, a beautiful example of the Art form we call coinage.
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reverse (also) looks DCAM out of the packaging.
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: WoodenJefferson
    Originally posted by: fivecents
    I can tell through the cello it's a lock DCAM.

    Great find!



    Nothing is deadlock DCAM until it comes back printed on the label. Nice Frankie


    Wrong! This coin is a dead lock DCAM.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Be sure to check the dime for one of the doubled die reverses. One die, 9-R-I, is a really nice one-very strong on all the lettering.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: koynekwest
    Be sure to check the dime for one of the doubled die reverses. One die, 9-R-I, is a really nice one-very strong on all the lettering.


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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    It's a shame when a DCAM is probably not worth getting graded. This one might be one of those. Outside shot at a 66 but I would need to see a normal image without the contrast all turned dark. Keets might be right on the 64.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: cmerlo1

    Originally posted by: koynekwest

    Be sure to check the dime for one of the doubled die reverses. One die, 9-R-I, is a really nice one-very strong on all the lettering.




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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: cmerlo1

    Originally posted by: koynekwest

    Be sure to check the dime for one of the doubled die reverses. One die, 9-R-I, is a really nice one-very strong on all the lettering.




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    Glad to see you checked for varieties as well. I've made just as much money on proof varieties as I have on cameos... Good advice for those reading the thread. (My latest is what I thought was a 1971s Kennedy that looked dcam from the Ebay photos - turns out the cent was a FS101 variety, and the Kennedy was not close to dcam on the reverse)



    But back to the Franklin - dcam all the way as others have opined. Too bad the hairlines on the obverse will keep it from a lofty grade.



    In the meantime, it was still a nice find!



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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Cameonut
    Originally posted by: cmerlo1
    Originally posted by: koynekwest
    Be sure to check the dime for one of the doubled die reverses. One die, 9-R-I, is a really nice one-very strong on all the lettering.


    First thing I did... image


    Glad to see you checked for varieties as well. I've made just as much money on proof varieties as I have on cameos... Good advice for those reading the thread. (My latest is what I thought was a 1971s Kennedy that looked dcam from the Ebay photos - turns out the cent was a FS101 variety, and the Kennedy was not close to dcam on the reverse)

    But back to the Franklin - dcam all the way as others have opined. Too bad the hairlines on the obverse will keep it from a lofty grade.

    In the meantime, it was still a nice find!



    Thanks, everyone. Proof sets from the 50's, 60's and early 70's are my favorite things to look at for varieties. There are SO many to look for and some are quite valuable. Nice pick on the 1971-S FS101 cent- I can't even begin to imagine how many 1971 sets I've looked at for that one. There are some nice DDO halves for that year and the no-S nickel I look for also.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice Franklin.... surely DCAM..... too bad about the hairlines...Cheers, RickO
  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    I dont see that getting knocked down to 64 because of the hairlines. In fact I'd BET on it grading at least 65 if those showing in the pic are the only ones evident in hand. Anyone wants to make a friendly wager, I'm game...
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: georgiacop50
    I dont see that getting knocked down to 64 because of the hairlines. In fact I'd BET on it grading at least 65 if those showing in the pic are the only ones evident in hand. Anyone wants to make a friendly wager, I'm game...


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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats.

    What an amazing Proof.

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: georgiacop50

    I dont see that getting knocked down to 64 because of the hairlines. In fact I'd BET on it grading at least 65 if those showing in the pic are the only ones evident in hand. Anyone wants to make a friendly wager, I'm game...




    The last 65DCAM on eBay sold for 33 bucks. Just not worth sending in for grading if you can't get a 67 on these.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313
    Originally posted by: georgiacop50
    I dont see that getting knocked down to 64 because of the hairlines. In fact I'd BET on it grading at least 65 if those showing in the pic are the only ones evident in hand. Anyone wants to make a friendly wager, I'm game...


    The last 65DCAM on eBay sold for 33 bucks. Just not worth sending in for grading if you can't get a 67 on these.


    I'm a part-time show rep (NOT a grader) for another grading company and will probably submit it to them since I get an employee discount.

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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: WoodenJefferson
    Originally posted by: fivecents
    I can tell through the cello it's a lock DCAM.

    Great find!



    Nothing is deadlock DCAM until it comes back printed on the label. Nice Frankie


    True. I'm worried the top (viewer) left side of the bell on the reverse will make it CAM only.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In fact I'd BET on it grading at least 65 if those showing in the pic are the only ones evident in hand



    are you really that adamant about the grade that you expect members to rise to your challenge?? I accept that you believe you're the forum Franklin expert in disguise, but all that considered you must realize what a grade killer hairlines are on a Proof, right??



    the coin may grade 66, it may grade 65, for that matter it may even grade 63. I just think it'll grade 64, nothing to really get all that challenge-y about. let's just wait and see what happens.
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That cameo is pretty on this one.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    let us know if u get it graded.



    i vote cam. the rev has places the frost is weak.



    nice newp either way.



    never ceases to amaze me how polished proof franks can be. sometimes tough to tell if hairlines or fine polishing.

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