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what am I missing here? MS 64?

OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭
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is this a legit slab? the coin is not a 64 to my eye (but I'm not a grading expert). Enlighten me.

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  • MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with you, definitely not a 64.

    When I look on NGC website it doesn't look like the same coin to me. The NGC photo has much more detail in the wings.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,554 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely NOT...in my opinion.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Weird.

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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,390 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The cert checks...

    https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4299420011
  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's the same coin. The big spot above Liberty's head confirms it. Just horrible photos.
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  • OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭
    Just horrible photos.


    The muddiest and least detailed 64 I've ever seen. I don't think the future buyer will be re-submitting for an upgrade.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks 30 to me.
  • valente151valente151 Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a crappy picture with toning that makes it look worn from that angle. I'll give the benefit of the doubt to NGC who saw the coin in hand vs. a crappy picture online.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    Same/correct coin. Awful photos.
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Looks 64, and would be higher if it was not for the ugly factor.
  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damn thing look AU. Must be an awful strike.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no way would i own that. thats a joke.
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not want it.
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would not want to own the seller's photos. Would have no problem with owning the photos from ATS.



    As far as the coin, I'd love to see it. It looks pretty well-struck and decently lustrous from the cert photos.
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There were so many of this year and mintmark struck(most poorly) that with a little cherrypicking one could pick up one of the better struck coins than this one. Most likely will be hard to sell at this price level. PCGS has recently dropped the value of this coin in this grade and it may fall even lower. It will be a shame for collectors with a truly well struck specimen to have to deal with falling prices for this grade and date coin. So many buy today by the grade and holder and not the individual coin.The poorest photography as I have seen. Will not sell for $70 in my opinion.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No problem with it as your typical generic graded MS64 Morgan. These trade sight-unseen. This one has some deeper orig dusky toning. Quite normal. They all can't be blast white fresh out of an original bag.
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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The NGC coin images show much better luster and detail than the seller's photos.



    Accurately graded imho.

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  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313

    Looks 64, and would be higher if it was not for the ugly factor.


    I agree
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  • woogloutwooglout Posts: 200 ✭✭✭
    If that doesn't open one's eyes to how important photography is with coins nowadays, I don't know what will.



    That is unreal!
  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks accurately graded from the NGC photos, and the exact type of coin that the Bluesheet and sight-unseen trading were designed to handle.
  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NGC label is not centered?

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The differences in photography make it look like two different coins...radically different...Cheers, RickO
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: mr1874

    NGC label is not centered?




    They haven't been for some time
  • oldlinecoinsoldlinecoins Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    It is amazing how bad those first pictures are. But the coin is nice. Lustrous, wholesomely original, nice peripheral toning. Grade looks spot on
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Horrendous photos. The coin appears legit.

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  • OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭
    anyone else surprised that it hasn't sold for $70 if the consensus is that it is accurately graded and a legit cert number? Have Morgans fallen that far in value?
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Onedollarnohollar

    anyone else surprised that it hasn't sold for $70 if the consensus is that it is accurately graded and a legit cert number? Have Morgans fallen that far in value?




    I wouldn't buy that ugly thing at all. PCGS graded 64's are selling for less than $70 all day long. Some for less than $60.

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