GTG 1833 Bust Quarter

scubafuel

Note that the bubbling in the fields is die rust.

amwldcoin

Pic seems a wee bit outta focus but based on my interpretation of the picture I would say AU53. As always that could change with an in hand look!

DIMEMAN

I like the clashing on the obverse. My guess 50-53.

golden

I will go with 50.

tradedollarnut

A really nice 45

coinlieutenant

I'll say 45 or 50.

VanHalen

AU55 unless they knocked it for lack of luster. 50 would be a worst case IMO. Very nice piece there!

msch1man

XF-47.5

mvs7

AU53

roadrunner

AU53. Meat galore on that honey. Cannot possibly see how it could be graded less than AU50. That was an XF45 back in the 1970's.

hchcoin

I knew it was the 33 when you said die rust before I could even see the picture. Great looking coin. Gotta love the busties.

thisnamztaken

53

oldlinecoins

55

coinkat

55- unless after an in hand review I don't like the surfaces Then maybe 45

TopographicOceans

Nice AU53

USMarine6

I like it as a 55. Are those clashes I'm seeing?

mrkbrown87

Looks like a super nice 45-50 to be. But I wouldn't be surprised at 53

scubafuel

Here's the PCGS grade. Looks like nobody guessed it! For the record, I agree with those who have said AU50. There is very little actual wear, although it has a bit of a mushy strike due to the die rust. There is original luster, but the reverse is more subdued than the obverse. I think even XF45 is too conservative with current standards.

So for the first time ever, I'm tempted to play the crackout game. However i'd rather just get a gold sticker on it and call it a day. Do you guys know if CAC accepts reconsideration requests?

roadrunner

I can't believe CAC didn't give that a gold sticker. I guess they don't like die rust or think that the black surfaces above Miss Lib's head could be early ED. PCGS must have netted it down for negative eye appeal/surfaces. If it were mine I'd not be happy with a 40 grade. Regardless, it's worth 45-50 money even on a bad day.

ricko

Too late for GTG, however, I would say it certainly merits an XF45....Cheers, RickO

logger7

If you got it anywhere near XF money you got a bargain; those almost double in AU.

Baley

Originally posted by: msch1man

XF-47.5

I'm at 51.5

Moldnut

Looks AU 50 to me too.

This one is a 53.

Barndog

Looks like the one I used to own. Choice for grade

coinkat

Compare your 1833 to another that is graded either 30 or 35-

I suspect that the difference will be profound...

Walkerfan

Pretty sweet!!



I'd have said AU 50 shot at 53.

golden

1Bustcollector

Nice 33. By the photo it looks pretty original. I would have guessed 53 netted to 50 if the surfaces do have something going on. Boy, was I off.



The lowere area by the date looks lighter, is it scuffy?

roadrunner

Originally posted by: 1Bustcollector

Nice 33. By the photo it looks pretty original. I would have guessed 53 netted to 50 if the surfaces do have something going on. Boy, was I off.



The lowere area by the date looks lighter, is it scuffy?

Now that you mention it, the date area does look possibly wiped. If that's the case it was likely netted down for that and other reasons.

Baley

I'm sure not seeing 20 points of wear on the high points, looks as if the uneven toning in the fields might have been taken into consideration.



Great coin nonetheless, certainly appears undergraded from the pictures.

scubafuel

No scuffs at the date, hairlines or anything. The date area is not noticeably lighter in hand, I think it may have been the lighting in the image. I think that CAC would not have stickered it at all if there was evidence of messing, regardless of the details. I've seen them pass on a bunch of "netted" coins.

No hairlines anywhere actually, and I think it has an original look. the only thing I can really see that might have held it back is that the reverse is a bit darker than the obverse. There is still luster peeking through though.

Barndog, was this your coin?

Barndog

Originally posted by: scubafuel





Barndog, was this your coin?

It sure looks like it. My records are missing the cert number for the 1833 I used to have. Given the low CAC pops for 1833 in XF40...there's a good chance.



I know who I sold it to in August

lordmarcovan

Put me on the AU53 bandwagon. Nice coin.



Thinking back, I don't think I've ever owned a CBQ above VF35.



Edit (after scrolling down to see the slab shot)- whoa. I am surprised.



No wonder that got a green bean. I'm semi-surprised it didn't get a gold one, with that PCGS grade.

logger7

Lots of coins get netted down by the graders/finalizers for whatever reason. I was looking at a rare date $20 a few years ago graded AU50 that looked a lot better; was able to walk it over to a real expert at the major show and he gave me his opinion, that it might not straight grade next time around.

joebb21

I thought xf48-49

asheland

AU50
Nice coin!

ms70

I guessed 40 without looking. I think it is well struck with just enough wear to justify the grade. The perimeter of the shield and the worn high points on the feathers are what brought me to that guess more than anything else.

Pokermandude

50 was my thought. Lack of lustre may have held it back though.

grip

Originally posted by: Pokermandude
50 was my thought. Lack of lustre may have held it back though.

Agree.And eye appeal.

lkeigwin

When I don't agree with PCGS on the grade -- and I don't here, at least on the basis of the pix -- I simply resubmit it for regrading. More often than not the grade is bumped.



You'd lose the CAC sticker but can always get another. The regraded coin will have a different cert#.

Lance.