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Possible error on 2016 silver eagles?

3 2016 Silver Eagles all have an identical crack coming from the rim, through the date up to about the middle of Libery's skirt. I can't figure out for the life of me what caused this? Any ideas?

Thanks!
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That appears to be a "die crack". I am not sure if it would be considered an "error" or a "variety" if enough are known. Interesting nevertheless...how about some close-up images?
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,681 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Big die crack? That's really cool! image
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that looks pretty cool, never seen that before either.
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    Thanks for sharing! Fascinating whenever something new and cool pops up!
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    Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool! Lets name it!



    Fractured Liberty!
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    TAMU15TAMU15 Posts: 577 ✭✭
    It seems wrong to call it a die crack because of the depth and scope of the cracks. I found two 2006 Reverse proof silver eagles with identical die cracks except they were located at 12:00 instead of 6:00 and PCGS indeed called them die cracks. Interesting to say the least!
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Depth? Die cracks have "raised" lines, not depth...that would be a "planchet" flaw...but not three in a row unless it was intentional...or a "strike through". image
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    TAMU15TAMU15 Posts: 577 ✭✭
    Depth was the wrong word the cracks are raised. I should have said size.
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    LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭
    It may be a master die crack (recessed)

    that makes a working hub with the crack (raised)

    that makes a working die (recessed crack)

    that makes a coin with a raised crack on each coin made by

    that working die ?



    Or something like that.
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    PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
    Interesting.

    Do you remember when and where you purchased them?

    I ask because I posted the link back in Feb. when govmint.com had the $16.95 sale per order of 10, with free shipping.

    I, as well as other members, bought LOTS of them, as the special ran for several weeks.

    Never examined any, just made sure there were 10 in each padded bubble mailer, then tossed in the safe. (still need more tubes!)

    COOL FIND!
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    gonzergonzer Posts: 2,989 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Possible start of a split die.
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Crack in the working die. Pretty neat.
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    AmazonXAmazonX Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭
    Very cool.
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    GoldenEggGoldenEgg Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A die crack on bullion isn't usually a big deal. But, that is a pretty long crack - and likely of interest to error collectors.
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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool. Would love to see some more pictures.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Soon to be known as the "Failed Pee Pee Dance Die Variety" imageimage
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    goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭✭
    It's a die crack and a nice one! You need a catch-phrase, may I suggest the "Streaming Liberty" image
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Although the photos aren't the best,

    it looks like a very long die crack,

    going up almost 50% of the coin.



    If so, it's the longest Die Crack I've

    seen on a ASE - and there should be

    more of 'em, if more rolls are searched

    across the country (or from that one

    distributor)



    The best one to find would be a rim-to-rim

    die crack, indicating a fully cracked die, and

    then maybe even a split die, like many of the

    dimes from 2002-2007 or so.



    Very Nice Find !
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting.... Now I must check my stack... I never seem to find any of these posted issues... bu always fun to look. Cheers, RickO
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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Something she stepped on?

    My Adolph A. Weinman signature :)

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    I purchased mine in San Antonio TX. I have 9 left . I sold 3 for 500 back in August.

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    COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    She will need a tetnis shot. Very cool find

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    HAPPY COLLECTING


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    GoldenEggGoldenEgg Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lozoman said:
    I purchased mine in San Antonio TX. I have 9 left . I sold 3 for 500 back in August.

    Wow! That is strong money for them. Congrats for getting them graded and labeled as errors.

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    CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebigeng said:
    Cool! Lets name it!

    Fractured Liberty!

    Split skirt :wink:

    Very cool. That die could have been on its way to splitting. You don't really see this with ASE's. They should bring a nice little premium

    The more you VAM..
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    "Trump's wall" lol

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    KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool find

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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice die crack find

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    TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about that

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for showing us the slabbed ASE.... Great find...Cheers, RickO

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lightning Liberty

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    tincuptincup Posts: 4,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a good find. While common bullion coins may not have much premium for die cracks, ASE are really more than just a bullion coin to quite a few. AAA+

    ----- kj
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 27, 2016 9:12AM

    "Cracked Liberty Belle".

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,681 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I want one! :)

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But I don't WANT to snip the bands on a monster box!!!!! :#

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    Make me an offer

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    Hello! Id offer you $750 for one! Thoughts???

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice finds

    Frank

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have not heard much about this after the initial reports... seems they were limited and interest quickly waned. Cheers, RickO

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    silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cool error coin

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RickO, the only reason things have been
    'quiet' about these is that no more have
    been reported.

    There should be at least a few hundred of
    them out there, if not more, in unsearched
    tubes that investors have.

    As I said a few years ago, this is a very nice
    thick die crack - and would have led to a
    dramatic split die if it were allowed to continue
    to mint ASE's.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Poor die prep. A huge crack like that on softer silver doesn't happen often. If more don't show up, the assumption can be made that the die was pulled early.

    Of course, that's too early to assume.

    Pete

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I must check my stash of 2016's :smile:

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ya know i like the looks of that. its all good

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    I agree. Cool find.wr me know if you still want to sell one. I love these types of errors!

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice error.....it won't take me long to check my stack because I won't have a crack because I lack a stack.

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    air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 797 ✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    RickO, the only reason things have been
    'quiet' about these is that no more have
    been reported.

    There should be at least a few hundred of
    them out there, if not more, in unsearched
    tubes that investors have.

    As I said a few years ago, this is a very nice
    thick die crack - and would have led to a
    dramatic split die if it were allowed to continue
    to mint ASE's.

    I remember when these were first reported. My cousin, an investor, had purchased a couple of monster boxes of the '16's. When I read the article about these being found I contacted him about looking through the boxes but he has no interest in doing so.

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    Truly. Please consider selling. I honestly will pay top dollar and we can use Fred W to be the holder and sender.

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