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Researching Counter Stamps. Where do you look?
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Here is a pieces that came in melt. The counterstamp was too alluring not to research.
Now not sure if my research led me to the right person, however the time period and location fit. What sources do you utilized while trying to find the person/place/business?
Charles PERRY (1816-1904) married first, 19 January 1841, to Emily BRUCE.
In 1846, Charles PERRY located on a farm near the "Cave" by St. Paul, remaining three years; then he removed to what is now (1881) White Bear township, Ramsey County, Minnesota, and made a claim of one hundred and sixty acres. This land he soon sold and then he lived at Lake Como until 1850 when he moved to Moundsview Township. T. M. Newson's PEN PICTURES OF ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA, p.20.
Charles PERRY (1816-1904) married second, 29 July 1848, to Aurelia MORRISSETTE, who was born 8 December 1828, Yamaska, Quebec, Canada, daughter of Jean Baptiste and Francoise (LeTENDRE) MORRISSETTE. Charles and Aurelia PERRY had thirteen children: Mary Ann m. Joseph AUGER; Damis m. George DOLPHY; Gilbert C. PERRY m. Emily --?--; Nellie M. m. (1st) George KINCAID, m. (2nd) Mr. FAYMOVILLE; Elizabeth O. PERRY m. Frank BALDWIN; Abraham E. PERRY m. Merence --?--; George M. PERRY; Anthony PERRY m. Sarah McDONALD; Agnes; Frank L. PERRY; Joseph PERRY m. Corra O. --?--; William PERRY m. Louise DEMERS; and the youngest, Peter PERRY, born 1872, married his niece, Olive BALDWIN, daughter of Frank and Elizabeth O. (PERRY) BALDWIN. J. Fletcher Williams, HISTORY OF RAMSEY COUNTY (1881), p.279.
In 1850, Charles PERRY purchased land at Lake Johannah, which he farmed for several years. He was the first and only settler for two years in the western portion of Moundsview Twp., and in 1850 he raised three acres of potatoes, it being the first crop raised in the township.
Now not sure if my research led me to the right person, however the time period and location fit. What sources do you utilized while trying to find the person/place/business?
Charles PERRY (1816-1904) married first, 19 January 1841, to Emily BRUCE.
In 1846, Charles PERRY located on a farm near the "Cave" by St. Paul, remaining three years; then he removed to what is now (1881) White Bear township, Ramsey County, Minnesota, and made a claim of one hundred and sixty acres. This land he soon sold and then he lived at Lake Como until 1850 when he moved to Moundsview Township. T. M. Newson's PEN PICTURES OF ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA, p.20.
Charles PERRY (1816-1904) married second, 29 July 1848, to Aurelia MORRISSETTE, who was born 8 December 1828, Yamaska, Quebec, Canada, daughter of Jean Baptiste and Francoise (LeTENDRE) MORRISSETTE. Charles and Aurelia PERRY had thirteen children: Mary Ann m. Joseph AUGER; Damis m. George DOLPHY; Gilbert C. PERRY m. Emily --?--; Nellie M. m. (1st) George KINCAID, m. (2nd) Mr. FAYMOVILLE; Elizabeth O. PERRY m. Frank BALDWIN; Abraham E. PERRY m. Merence --?--; George M. PERRY; Anthony PERRY m. Sarah McDONALD; Agnes; Frank L. PERRY; Joseph PERRY m. Corra O. --?--; William PERRY m. Louise DEMERS; and the youngest, Peter PERRY, born 1872, married his niece, Olive BALDWIN, daughter of Frank and Elizabeth O. (PERRY) BALDWIN. J. Fletcher Williams, HISTORY OF RAMSEY COUNTY (1881), p.279.
In 1850, Charles PERRY purchased land at Lake Johannah, which he farmed for several years. He was the first and only settler for two years in the western portion of Moundsview Twp., and in 1850 he raised three acres of potatoes, it being the first crop raised in the township.
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testing out google drive stuff
I didn't find a reference for this one, though.
I searched for:
counterstamped coin perry st paul
and I got this page (which is based on the Brunk book and has been helpful in the past):
http://www.exonumia.com/art/cmd.htm
but C H PERRY & CO ST PAUL is not in the list under P.
I would think your best bet would be to research local business directories, but I am not sure if there are any good online resources for these. You could also scour through newspapers from the era to see it there are any advertisements of his. From a quick search of the Minnesota Historical Society online collections, Charles Perry is also listed as Charles Perret, so he may have changed his name in earlier years. Below is an image of his house on Lake Johanna ca. 1900, courtesy Minnesota Historical Society.
Minnesota Newspapers
There is a book by Brunk that is a good reference but I think it is out of print? The interweb might have some items cached somewhere.
Yes, I've heard Brunk quoted as "the" reference on counterstamps but have never seen it.
Closest I have is the Rulau token encyclopedia, which I believe occasionally mentions stuff like this. Only very occasionally.
No such reference could be all-encompassing, anyway.
I just use Google, too.
Cool find!
I remember doing that before, but didn't bookmark the site.
Unless someone is willing to host a web page and receive emails to compile a list.
It could be made searchable with.....just no time for all that.
The hunt for info/history on these pieces is half the fun and gives us a better glimpse into the past at the people who handled these coins.
Exonumia.com
and
TokenCatalog.com
The Brunk book is available for sale on the Exonumia.com site I believe.
The Brunk book gives a brief description of the merchants when available, and usually known types of host coins etc where the online site just gives a semi complete list of known counterstamps.
The tokencatalog site covers all types of tokens including counterstamps and makes an attempt to collect photos and information.
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The hunt for info/history on these pieces is half the fun and gives us a better glimpse into the past at the people who handled these coins.
Oh, I agree. 112%.
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