Originally posted by: perkdogI guess I don't care because it's impossible to weed out every player that used, the way I see it is every team has or had one or more "Dirty" players. Also who the heck knows what goes on behind closed doors, how many championship players did something that would get the banned or arrested had they been caught?
I don't completely agree, but I see your point with respect to team championships. There's probably more that we don't know than that we know, so what can you do?
But, this argument doesn't work at the individual level. We KNOW that David Ortiz cheated; to honor him by putting him in the HOF is to honor cheating and to make a mockery of the sport. The same applies, of course, to many others.
This is for you @thisistheshow - Jim Rice was actually a pretty good player.
For the record once again I couldn't care less if Papi gets in the HOF or not, I will say that if any PED user gets in then any player should be given the chance even if they were caught and 100% Dirty. Basically none or all that would/should be eligible
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I don't completely agree, but I see your point with respect to team championships. There's probably more that we don't know than that we know, so what can you do?
But, this argument doesn't work at the individual level. We KNOW that David Ortiz cheated; to honor him by putting him in the HOF is to honor cheating and to make a mockery of the sport. The same applies, of course, to many others.