True Views are Great!

tradedollarnut

So I just had my set re-imaged in preparation for display. The last time they were imaged was nearly a decade ago. I just have to say how much better they are at imaging now. Here are a few comparisons:

Rayman311

The new ones are quite spectacular!

dpoole

Is Darkhorse still doing the photography for PCGS?

SkyMan

I definitely prefer the new '71-CC TV.

I'm on the fence abut the new '64 TV versus the old. While I prefer the detail of the new TV, particularly on the obverse, it seems to me you get a better feel for the luster, on both the obverse and reverse, on the old TV. In any case, I like both images of the '64.

Baley

I like the first picture of each coin far more than the second picture. The second images seem like the angle is wrong to show the surfaces and they have too much light reflection. I also really dislike all the "busy-ness" around the pictures of the coins, and appreciate the simplicity of the first pictures.



Really nice coins

PRECIOUSMENTAL

Makes the 1871 look like an entirely different coin.

Which photos, old and new, most look like the coin when 'in hand'?

They look better in the original pics, IMHO.

oldlinecoins

I hate to be a buzzkill but I like the original pictures for both coins. The new ones seem over-exposed and not indicative of what the coin would actually look like in hand. I actually think the original pictures are quite awesome lol

TwoKopeiki

Originally posted by: dpoole

Is Darkhorse still doing the photography for PCGS?

Phil is still at it! And doing a hell of a job, too

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brg5658

The first (older?) images of both coins are far superior to the 2nd (newer?) images.



If you want realistic shots stick to the 1st ones. If you want glamour shots, I guess congrats you got them in the 2nd shots.



EDIT: I edited my reply as it is not clear which images are new vs. old. If the 2nd images are the supposed "better" newer images, then I am surprised at your opinion...

MonsterCoinz

Pretty sure the first ones are the new TV's.



Only the old TV's have the stock ticker.

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dadams

Not sure which are the new or old, but I like the first set of pictures without the background as well.

lkeigwin

The first images are the newer ones. I hope.



I don't know a numismatic photographer who doesn't produce much better images today than 10 years ago.



Nice coins!

Lance.

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

First are new and 2nd are old....Very Nice!

tradedollarnut

Originally posted by: 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD
First are new and 2nd are old....Very Nice!

This is correct. Sorry, but I thought it was self evident which were the old and which were the new. The old shots are 'washed out' whereas the new ones show the life of the coin

coinkat

Great images and it is a terrific service

lordmarcovan

True Views are Great!

Your coins are, too, if I may make the understatement of the week.

oih82w8

Then or now...still some spectacular coinage there TDN!



You could justify having a cover charge to view your collection in person.

brg5658

The old images with the stock ticker are awful.



I agree with TDN then that the new images are superior...only ongoing problem is the consistent red-shifting of TV images that has been going on since time immemorial.

Sunshine Rare Coins

When and where is the display going to be?

ricko

Truly beautiful coins... the luster is evident in the new pictures.... Cheers, RickO

ElmerFusterpuck

The old set of pics made me think they were proofs, you couldn't tell there was luster. Second set is way better and I'm assuming they look like that in hand.

MFH

".....in preparation for display."

I saw Dale Friend's Bust Halves on display at our host's table a few years ago.
Also, Peter Shireman's Barber Halves on display - which included he and I sitting
down together at the PCGS table and discussing each of his coins. Talk about a treat !!

So, TDN, when and where is the upcoming display ?
I also like the top images much better than the bottom.
The top images show a true MS coin, where as the lower
seem to be PL. Regardless, the subjects are superb !!

Thanks for sharing.

tradedollarnut

The full set will be on display at ANA and fall LB

LanceNewmanOCC

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gr8 coins, obviously.



was hoping to say the 1st images before anyone but others beat me to it.



room for improvement, either way. will say i don't like the glamour shot aka overexposed/diffused unless the coin calls for it.



your coins, your preference though.



for 10 years ago, those are pretty good compared to several other auction sites.



tx for sharing some monsters!

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TwoSides2aCoin

mmm, mmm good.... A guy could almost call it the "Campbell's Soup" Collection.

coinsarefun

A world of difference.......beautiful coins, beautiful images!

sjk1776

"I like the first picture of each coin far more than the second picture."



Ditto. The highlights are washed out due to too much contrast

brg5658

Here is a link to Bruce's full set.



Just phenomenal coins Bruce!

tradedollarnut

Originally posted by: brg5658
Here is a link to Bruce's full set.

Just phenomenal coins Bruce!

Many thanks for the kind words!

TwoKopeiki

Wow, quite a set!

asheland

Originally posted by: Baley
I like the first picture of each coin far more than the second picture. The second images seem like the angle is wrong to show the surfaces and they have too much light reflection. I also really dislike all the "busy-ness" around the pictures of the coins, and appreciate the simplicity of the first pictures.

Really nice coins

PCGSPhoto

Originally posted by: tradedollarnut

Originally posted by: 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD
First are new and 2nd are old....Very Nice!

This is correct. Sorry, but I thought it was self evident which were the old and which were the new. The old shots are 'washed out' whereas the new ones show the life of the coin

Thanks for the comments. I saw these come in and I thought "FINALLY! I get to do these again!".
When I first did your set I had only been at PCGS for a couple of months, and didn't really have much experience photographing US coins - nor was I fully aware of the very high standards and passion of US collectors.

Originally posted by: brg5658
The old images with the stock ticker are awful.

I agree with TDN then that the new images are superior...only ongoing problem is the consistent red-shifting of TV images that has been going on since time immemorial.

Yeah, we did away with the old stock ticker background back in 2010 when we moved to higher megapixel cameras. We've toyed with the idea of redesigning the standard template, but I think people would rather it stay the same or make their own backgrounds.

If you've ever had stuff photographed at the Long Beach show the red-shift this is a particular problem; the facility's power really fades in and out a lot, really messing with my incandescent lights. Generally people are fine with it, and I'm willing to make adjustments if the customer feels it's necessary. I wish we had time to more make more adjustments on a per-coin basis, but it's not practical unfortunately. Editing a typical coin takes under 12 seconds with our software.

tradedollarnut

Hopefully, in a month you can do the trade dollars again as well!

sjk1776

Amazing set!!

sparky64

Words don't do them justice.



Were they cracked out for the new pics or shot through the slab?



If cracked out, any re-grade candidates?

braddick

Spectacular! The new images show a depth that is lacking in the original TrueViews.

SeattleSlammer

You mean they finally stopped the glamour shots!? That's awesome. Incredible coins.

Walkerfan

Originally posted by: tradedollarnut

Originally posted by: 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

First are new and 2nd are old....Very Nice!

This is correct. Sorry, but I thought it was self evident which were the old and which were the new. The old shots are 'washed out' whereas the new ones show the life of the coin

Then I DO like the new ones better.



The old ones are too bright and over-exposed.

tradedollarnut

Originally posted by: sparky64
Words don't do them justice.

Were they cracked out for the new pics or shot through the slab?

If cracked out, any re-grade candidates?

The set was submitted for reholder and image only - so yes, the images were taken raw. I did subsequently choose 9 coins to be reviewed for grade. Of these 9, 5 got plused. Roadrunner will recognize this new member of the plus crowd:



In general, I did not choose to submit coins that already were the finest known (even if PQ), but rather coins where the pop had either doubled or exploded or a different coin had made a plus to be top pop. In other words, just keeping up with the Joneses...

sparky64

All interesting stuff and surprisingly, it's how I imagined the process.

Congrats on the +'s.

Wabbit2313

Those coins are sweet! I like the images also. I agree that the old images made them look like proofs.

coindeuce

Looks as if the TV photographer diffused the lighting and used a faster exposure speed. Way too much contrast in the old TV's.

boiler78

Outstanding set Bruce This is one of those sets that is well worth traveling to see. I can't wait to see them up close at the ANA.



Please keep us posted on the Trade Dollar set display....... I want to make my travel plans early for that show as well.