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coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
IMHO, Muhammad Ali was one of the greatest of mankind from the 20th century.

My favorite quote of his: "He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life."

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. The hands can't hit what the eyes can't see."



    RIP, the original GOAT.


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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The soul of a butterfly.



    How sad. He was a hero in my youth. I remember the Sonny Liston fight when I was 13.



    Sports Illustrated crowned him the Sportsman of the Century.



    He will be missed.

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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭
    How sad. I was lucky enough to meet him twice, once at a restaurant in Beverly Hills and again at the Disneyland Hotel.
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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Greatest for me in my generation. So many unforgettable moments in and out of the ring.
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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    One of my hero's as a young'un

    Rest in Peace Mr Ali, thank you for your inspiration and so much more
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He fought as much or more with his mouth than he did with his fists - and that was what made him so darned likable. I am old enough to remember the Thrilla in Manila and the Rumble in the Jungle - and while I was never and am still not a boxing fan, you couldn't help but like Ali as a sportsman.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boxing is one sport I do follow...always have... and Ali was an incredible boxer.. superb speed and skills... RIP RickO
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,216 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what a sad loss. he made some great memories for sure
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Arsenio surprises the Champ with two special guests.
  • PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
    I really enjoyed he and Howard Cosell's verbal antics, very entertaining.
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really sad.



    A true champion.



    Another icon from my youth gone......

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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    The Greatest.

    RIP
  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The guy was a phenom. He made us proud in the Rome Olympics, he inspired and amazed us with his brashness backed up by commensurate skill, and he unsettled us massively with his stances about race and war.
  • bigmarty58bigmarty58 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RIP Champ - The Greatest!
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Floyd Patterson was my idol until Cassius came along. I bet a nickel with my Dad on Floyd and Cassius won in the 12th (TKO stoppage)! What a fight! I switched from Patterson to Ali for the next 20 years.



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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sad day. One of my favorite athletes, ever. May the good Lord watch over his friends and family as he rests, in peace.
  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I boxed in the early 1970's (OK, OK, I was a Lightweight 132 cut off). This was during Ali's long defense of the his titles.

    We boxed 3 3 minute rounds in Golden Gloves with 1 minute in between. Most of the time, by 45 into the 2nd, arms felt like lead, feet were in concrete. Watching them go 15 x 3's always amazed me.

    I boxed in Korea once. My opponent was more street fighter than boxer. He was like a windmill for 1st round and 2 into the 2nd, and literally just ran completely out of gas. That entire bout, I threw maybe 10 punches, and he was on the canvas, a KO, never got past a knee. His gloves literally hung below his shoulders, nothing left in the tank.

    Watching a 200+ pound man rope a dope for 45 minutes, truly a superman.
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RIP to "The Greatest"



    Truly a special person.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life."



    Words from a draft dodger.

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ms70

    "He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life."



    Words from a draft dodger.




    Lame post. He stood by his religious convictions and principles and paid a heavy penalty for them, both professionally and personally. He did not run or hide or flee to Canada. In any case, this is a time to respect a man who has passed and who brought joy and inspiration to millions of people all across the globe. RIP to The Greatest.



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  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: grote15





    Lame post. He stood by his religious convictions and principles and paid a heavy penalty for them, both professionally and personally. He did not run or hide or flee to Canada. In any case, this is a time to respect a man who has passed and who brought joy and inspiration to millions of people all across the globe. RIP to The Greatest.





    Extremely lame post.



    You have no insight on why he acquired his 'new' religion.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: hammer1

    Originally posted by: grote15





    Lame post. He stood by his religious convictions and principles and paid a heavy penalty for them, both professionally and personally. He did not run or hide or flee to Canada. In any case, this is a time to respect a man who has passed and who brought joy and inspiration to millions of people all across the globe. RIP to The Greatest.





    Extremely lame post.



    You have no insight on why he acquired his 'new' religion.




    Neither do you. In fact, none of us are qualified to judge, either.



    This is not the time to take pot shots at the man~that's all I'm saying.



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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I used to watch him fight with my dad back in the day. He truly was the greatest. An amazing man and he will be missed. A man that stood up for what he believed was right. A true hero to many Americans.
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  • robecrobec Posts: 6,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: crazyhounddog

    I used to watch him fight with my dad back in the day. He truly was the greatest. An amazing man and he will be missed. A man that stood up for what he believed was right. A true hero to many Americans.




    +1
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: crazyhounddog

    I used to watch him fight with my dad back in the day..




    Wow, Ali fought with your dad? I would have watched that, too! image



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  • My dad was a big fight fan and convinced me as a 12 yr old that Liston was going to kill Clay in first fight so I made bets with school pals and of course lost.
    Did not have money to pay off about $10 so I had to dig into my coin collection of mercury dimes to cover bets.
    Later became a fan and admire Ali. Never over bet like that again
    Lesson learned.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: hammer1

    Originally posted by: grote15





    Lame post. He stood by his religious convictions and principles and paid a heavy penalty for them, both professionally and personally. He did not run or hide or flee to Canada. In any case, this is a time to respect a man who has passed and who brought joy and inspiration to millions of people all across the globe. RIP to The Greatest.





    Extremely lame post.



    You have no insight on why he acquired his 'new' religion.




    None of his can speak as to the "why" of his conversion. Fwiw, he converted a couple days or weeks after the 1st Liston fight, 3 years before he refused military induction. He probably expected to go to prison. He didn't choose other "easier" deferment methods to get out of his military duty as so many well-heeled people did at the time. His appeal reached the US Supreme Court in 1971 and was unanimously overturned. Interesting how the justices got there though....



    This from Matt Ford in the Atlantic:



    When Ali appealed his case to the U.S. Supreme Court for the final time in 1971, liberal stalwart Justice William Brennan convinced his colleagues to hear the case. Justice Thurgood Marshall recused himself because he had been solicitor general when Ali was prosecuted. That left eight justices, who on a first vote sided with the Justice Department in a 5-3 decision.



    Ali claimed he qualified for conscientious-objector status because he opposed the war as a black Muslim. The Justice Department challenged that status, citing his statements that he would fight the Vietcong in a “holy war” if they fought Muslims. The justices began drafting their opinions when one of Justice John Marshall Harlan II’s clerks convinced him to take home Elijah Muhammad’s Message to the Blackman in America. Harlan returned to the Court the next day and, convinced of Ali’s sincerity after reading the text, switched sides.



    Harlan’s move raised the prospect of a 4-4 split, which would preserve Ali’s conviction and send him to jail without explaining why. The justices instead chose to resolve it on narrow technical grounds and unanimously vacated the conviction.




    RIP champ.







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  • CertifiedGoldCoinsCertifiedGoldCoins Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭
    Born only a couple of years before me, he was an Olympic Champion when I was 16. Then Heavyweight Champion. When I left college (no money), the Draft Board called me in. I was 20, didn't even know I had a deferment, or that I had just lost it. I could have been one of the first to visit Vietnam in 1965.

    I got a medical pass, but Ali did not. I remember him saying something like "I don't have no quarrel with them Vietcongs." He refused to be inducted, lost his title, and went to prison. I went to work for the Post Office. Ultimately, he was right, and as usual, government was wrong (and KNEW it). Other than that, he was the best boxer in my lifetime.

    Why am I writing this? Something I saw yesterday on FOX News needs to be repeated, because it shows how he could never have fought outside the Ring, never mind his religious beliefs.

    His business agent for decades (a white guy), Gene Kilroy, mentioned that Ali donated to many worthy causes. One day, they went to a Jewish Home (aged? he didn't say) that was out of money. So Muslim Ali writes out a check for $200,000 and promised more in four days when he'd have more money in the account. But that's not what's important.

    Kilroy said that while driving off (in a cab, not a limo) Ali said "Kindness to others is the only rent we pay for our room on earth."
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  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life."

    I was only 10 years old when Ali said he would not go to war to fight. That impressed me tremendously as a courageous thing to do. I have always admired the man for having the balls to stand up for his beliefs.
  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fantastic thread.

    Rest in peace. Truly one of the great ones.
    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    The Greatest
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    When he knocked out the Beatle with 1 punch!
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    Funeral is scheduled for the 10th and will be televised worldwide I am told.

    RIP Champ!

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