I'm guessing the serial number added only a little to this bar's value. This bar is a better type with the bull's head logo and it's in good shape with attractive cooling lines. Very neat bar but not for me---I'll pay a reasonable premium over melt for a vintage bar but not more than three times melt for a bar that isn't that rare.
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What digit makes this anything special? I'm not seeing it.
I believe POM is referring to the one at the beginning of the serial number. It's not worth any premium to me.
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Originally posted by: PerryHall I'm guessing the serial number added only a little to this bar's value. This bar is a better type with the bull's head logo and it's in good shape with attractive cooling lines. Very neat bar but not for me---I'll pay a reasonable premium over melt for a vintage bar but not more than three times melt for a bar that isn't that rare.
Originally posted by: OnlyGoldIsMoney It is a common type of 10 oz poured bar. The extra digit is a curiosity but I wonder if the buyer can ever recover the premium.
I checked my inventory and found I have the following bars with an extra "1" digit:
1-203223 1-203190 1-203161 246984-1
When purchasing them I paid not much more than $5 per ounce over the then current spot prices during 2010-2013.
Either my sense of pricing for these anomalous bars is obsolete or some bidders are a bit to exuberant.
Thx for the serial numbers OGIM... I've update the Definitive page as well as my registry. I hadn't had the 1.203xxx series listed under serial examples, only the 1.232xxx run.
There are currently seven 1.203xxx ingots and six 1.232xxx series in the registry FWIW.
Originally posted by: OnlyGoldIsMoney It is a common type of 10 oz poured bar. The extra digit is a curiosity but I wonder if the buyer can ever recover the premium.
I checked my inventory and found I have the following bars with an extra "1" digit:
1-203223 1-203190 1-203161 246984-1
When purchasing them I paid not much more than $5 per ounce over the then current spot prices during 2010-2013.
Either my sense of pricing for these anomalous bars is obsolete or some bidders are a bit to exuberant.
Thx for the serial numbers OGIM... I've update the Definitive page as well as my registry. I hadn't had the 1.203xxx series listed under serial examples, only the 1.232xxx run.
There are currently seven 1.203xxx ingots and six 1.232xxx series in the registry FWIW.
You're welcome, I will make it a point to send you all my serial numbers by ounce type to help fill out the registry.
I sold one of those 1. serial number bars back in Jan of 2016 for $1000...to be fair...silver was about $14/oz and I worked a 3 way trade...my buddy got the silver, I got the $1000 and somebody else got the E bar... So yes, people will pay for rarity, that would include serial number rarity, stamping variety rarity or any other rarity if they collect, don't have it and want it. That's kind of what collecting is about right, I don't have one, I want one of all the varieties and will pay to get it.
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What number are you looking for?
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What digit makes this anything special? I'm not seeing it.
I believe POM is referring to the one at the beginning of the serial number. It's not worth any premium to me.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I'm guessing the serial number added only a little to this bar's value. This bar is a better type with the bull's head logo and it's in good shape with attractive cooling lines. Very neat bar but not for me---I'll pay a reasonable premium over melt for a vintage bar but not more than three times melt for a bar that isn't that rare.
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I would say the buyer is buried in that item for a long time.... Cheers, RickO
I disagree......13 bidders bid it to that level.
The Engelhard collector community is alive and well, and very active with rarer bars. JMHO
I would say the buyer is buried in that item for a long time.... Cheers, RickO
I disagree......13 bidders bid it to that level.
The Engelhard collector community is alive and well, and very active with rarer bars. JMHO
+1
Same goes with 3oz top logo with (+) and without (+)...small variation but big difference in price, just sayin.....
I checked my inventory and found I have the following bars with an extra "1" digit:
1-203223
1-203190
1-203161
246984-1
When purchasing them I paid not much more than $5 per ounce over the then current spot prices during 2010-2013.
Either my sense of pricing for these anomalous bars is obsolete or some bidders are a bit to exuberant.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
It is a common type of 10 oz poured bar. The extra digit is a curiosity but I wonder if the buyer can ever recover the premium.
I checked my inventory and found I have the following bars with an extra "1" digit:
1-203223
1-203190
1-203161
246984-1
When purchasing them I paid not much more than $5 per ounce over the then current spot prices during 2010-2013.
Either my sense of pricing for these anomalous bars is obsolete or some bidders are a bit to exuberant.
Thx for the serial numbers OGIM... I've update the Definitive page as well as my registry. I hadn't had the 1.203xxx series listed under serial examples, only the 1.232xxx run.
There are currently seven 1.203xxx ingots and six 1.232xxx series in the registry FWIW.
It is a common type of 10 oz poured bar. The extra digit is a curiosity but I wonder if the buyer can ever recover the premium.
I checked my inventory and found I have the following bars with an extra "1" digit:
1-203223
1-203190
1-203161
246984-1
When purchasing them I paid not much more than $5 per ounce over the then current spot prices during 2010-2013.
Either my sense of pricing for these anomalous bars is obsolete or some bidders are a bit to exuberant.
Thx for the serial numbers OGIM... I've update the Definitive page as well as my registry. I hadn't had the 1.203xxx series listed under serial examples, only the 1.232xxx run.
There are currently seven 1.203xxx ingots and six 1.232xxx series in the registry FWIW.
You're welcome, I will make it a point to send you all my serial numbers by ounce type to help fill out the registry.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
1. easy enough...
What number are you looking for?
Would readily show that a number was added, no?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engelhard-10-oz-Silver-Bar-Canadian-2nd-Series-s-n-1-232251-Tier-1-beauty-/121999297786?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=DhVYODtq5%2B6RXXIia5FnCYe0n7U%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc