GTG, just sent to PCGS, GRADE JUST POSTED

AUandAG

1880CC, PO01, CERT: 81190760

Lesson learned, look closely at the mint mark!!



bob



1889cc, hoping for a PO01 of course.





edited to be fair.

Here's a FR02 for reference:

morgandollar1878

Looks like it has shot at PO1

DIMEMAN

Looks poor to me.

Rampage

FA02. Nice wear.

ebaybuyer

looks like a little too much meat remaining for an 01

roadrunner

Will they be tougher on an 89-cc to "give up" a PO1 vs. an 1880-s?

Jcld

Did you really send this in to be graded?

AUandAG

Yes,, they can be tougher....



and yes, I really sent it for grading.



bob

Kyle

FR-02

halfhunter

How can you tell it's an '89 rather than an '80?



HH

AUandAG

date placement above the dentilcles???? lol,



good question but I think I see an inward curve on the left side indicating a 9. But, PCGS may disagree, we'll see.



bob

wooglout

Wish they'd give out Basal State for those coins so worn that they can only be dated using diagnostics for that year instead of the actual year... I just think it'd be neat to have an 1878 8TF BS-0!



edit- and to answer OP I say 50/50 and leaning toward PO-1

AUandAG

Originally posted by: wooglout

Wish they'd give out Basal State for those coins so worn that they can only be dated using diagnostics for that year instead of the actual year... I just think it'd be neat to have an 1878 8TF BS-0!



edit- and to answer OP I say 50/50 and leaning toward PO-1

Yes, there are several dollars that no date is needed, nor mintmark. The 1890cc tailbar would be one of those as would the 1921 Peace dollar, just to name two.



bob

TopographicOceans

Good luck! I hope you get a real crappy grade

OperationButter

GL Bob!

onlyroosies

PO-01 all day long. I would have cracked out the FR-02 and sent it along.

sparky64

Genuine. Tooled.

ms70

I think it's still going to come back an 02.

Kccoin

PO-01+ ? It looks.close compared to your Fr-02 example. Hope you het it

Nap

Difficult to authenticate at that level of wear, let alone ascertain the date.

coindeuce

BAJJERFAN

Originally posted by: coindeuce

Appears to be the reverse of '89-CC VAM 5. Note the dramatically lower position of the right C of mintmark.

The F02 graded coin, no?

coindeuce

Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN

Originally posted by: coindeuce

Appears to be the reverse of '89-CC VAM 5. Note the dramatically lower position of the right C of mintmark.

The F02 graded coin, no?

Ah, fatigue is a strange thing. I was attributing the certified FR2.



Edited to add: The mintmark on Bob's coin is too small to be from an '89-CC reverse. I think it is 1880-CC, of which a half dozen or so reverse of 1879 (SAF) dies used the small cc mintmark. None of the 1889-CC reverse dies used the small cc.

Jcld

I am very confused why would you send in such a worn coin? Is it really worth the price of grading for such a specimen?

DollarAfterDollar

Some people have too much money.

sparky64

Originally posted by: Jcld

I am very confused why would you send in such a worn coin? Is it really worth the price of grading for such a specimen?

Price guide is $700 for a 1.

AUandAG

Originally posted by: coindeuce

Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN

Originally posted by: coindeuce

Appears to be the reverse of '89-CC VAM 5. Note the dramatically lower position of the right C of mintmark.

The F02 graded coin, no?

Ah, fatigue is a strange thing. I was attributing the certified FR2.



Edited to add: The mintmark on Bob's coin is too small to be from an '89-CC reverse. I think it is 1880-CC, of which a half dozen or so reverse of 1879 (SAF) dies used the small cc mintmark. None of the 1889-CC reverse dies used the small cc.

crap.....no no.....a PO 01, 1880-cc???? Heaven forbid...we'll see in about 3 weeks.



Really, I never even looked at the size of the CC's, lol.



bob



Pop report for 1880cc = 2

1889cc = 3

oih82w8

This may be cause for PO01+.

ricko

Wow....hard to say... good chance for an 01.....Cheers, RickO

roadrunner

Interesting that the FR02 obliterates the obverse peripheral lettering, yet has full LIBERTY.

The PO1 candidate has this reversed. I think having most of the obverse motto visible could be the decider.

AUandAG

Here is a 1878cc with the small cc's like they used in 1880 (but not in 1879 or any other year).

bob

Ahrensdad

Looks like a PO-1 to me. I will saw though that I can't be certain than it's a 1889 and not an 1880.

MonsterCoinz

Obviously PO-01. There's no room for additional wear and still be able to make out the date/mm.

asheland

I like it! Good luck!

Wabbit2313

Originally posted by: asheland
I like it! Good luck!

If it is an 89-CC and goes a 1, it could be the ugliest most beautiful CC out there!

asheland

lol

OldIndianNutKase

How long have you been carrying that coin in your pocked???????

I'd grade it Genuine, artificially worn.

OINK

thisnamztaken

Poor 01

AUandAG

80cc, PO-01. Cert: 81190760



bob

DIMEMAN

I see the difference in the size of CC's. Also the inner shape of the last digit of date is different. One is more rounded than the other. Comparing the OP's coin to the 1889 I would call it a 1880 also.

AUandAG

Coindeuce got it right on....congrats...



bob

BryceM

I like it!