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  • Cakes??? If your and O's fan I'm betting that's for Palmer lol I may be way of though. Who by the way is my favorite Oriole.
  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TheMick6
    Don't get me started on cal and Ped's I've always found it funny that with all the allegations tossed around that Cal and Ryan escaped them. I don't throw those around cause who knows anymore but both of those guys played forever, one never seemed to age and the other either played thru injuries or healed quicker than the average human. My go to on PED's is to just judge players on the era they played. I don't see how anyone can compare Ruth and Bonds or Mantle and Trout or whoever without just saying those guys where the best of there era and leave it at that. Anything else just seems like arguing for arguing a sake.


    I agree with both of your points.

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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TheMick6
    Cakes??? If your and O's fan I'm betting that's for Palmer lol I may be way of though. Who by the way is my favorite Oriole.


    I actually only got to see the 80's Orioles but I do remember Palmer being awesome. To stay on point Palmer is a great example of being undervalued.

    My fondest 80's memories are definitely Earl Weaver. In the 90's I caught Brady Anderson's 49th homerun, I was watching from the standing room only spot in right field.

    In true disclosure I haven't been to an O's game in a very long time. The last time I was there was when my brother in law played for the Devil Rays so we went to watch him pitch. I loved Camden Yards, what a classic stadium.



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  • Who was your brother in law in played with to kids in high school that ended up
    On the Rays one of them a pitcher. Shot in the dark I may have known him.
  • Late 70's early 80's O's are my fondest memories, then the dark age set in!
  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TheMick6
    Who was your brother in law in played with to kids in high school that ended up
    On the Rays one of them a pitcher. Shot in the dark I may have known him.


    Mike Duvall, he went to Potomac State, he was pretty good but ended up needing Tommy John surgery and never made it back.

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  • Was he from the Baltimore area? The pitcher I played with was Tony Saunders. The lefty that ended up cracking his arm kinda like Dave dravecky
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  • emaremar Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭
    '59 Gibson nicely centered PSA 8 pop 314
    '60 Yaz PSA 8 pop 522
    '67 Carew PSA 8 pop 341

    Uptrend has been slow for all 3.
    Semi affordable but not too much longer.
  • 3BoyzTrading3BoyzTrading Posts: 798 ✭✭
    My question is where is al this money coming from? With new modern collectors, boxes run from $100 to $4000 on release. Price points on Chrome Autos go from $100 to $7000. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before. Then vintage stuff hitting $10,000, $20,000, $30,000, $40,000 dollars. The first million dollar 9 I've seen when 9 years ago it was a $4000 card......
  • MintacularMintacular Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭
    Anybody think "oddball" issues of HOFers will grow?
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: 3BoyzTrading
    My question is where is al this money coming from? With new modern collectors, boxes run from $100 to $4000 on release. Price points on Chrome Autos go from $100 to $7000. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before. Then vintage stuff hitting $10,000, $20,000, $30,000, $40,000 dollars. The first million dollar 9 I've seen when 9 years ago it was a $4000 card......



    What card went form $4,000 in a PSA 9 to over a million?

  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TheMick6
    Was he from the Baltimore area? The pitcher I played with was Tony Saunders. The lefty that ended up cracking his arm kinda like Dave dravecky


    I think he did play in the minors with Tony when he was a Marlin.

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  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Mintacular
    Anybody think "oddball" issues of HOFers will grow?


    That's a good question. I'm often surprised to see how cheap most oddball issues sell for. As a collector, its more fun for me to own a rare piece of history, compared to the Topps issues where there seems to be no shortage of.

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • LefthanderLefthander Posts: 97 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: Mintacular
    Anybody think "oddball" issues of HOFers will grow?


    Comparatively, not much if any. Most are dead money.
  • LefthanderLefthander Posts: 97 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: lurkingnomore
    Hockey still appears VERY cheap relative to other sport counterparts. I understand there are fewer hockey collectors but the spread of prices between ICONS/ HOFers by sport screams BUY to me for Hockey ICONs like Bobby Orr PSA 6 and above, Wayne Gretzky OPC PSA 8-9, Mark Messier OPC PSA 9-10s, Mario Lemieux OPC PSA 10 rookies to name a few.


    Bobby Orr rookie cards have been rising but I believe are still vastly undervalued. I believe this card is the 1952 Mantle of hockey cards and has a lot of room to grow. Will it ever approach the price levels of a Mantle? No, but it's still relatively cheap.
  • Arsenal83Arsenal83 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭
    With the rise of the 68 Ryan, I think the next card to jump is the 68 Bench RC. Nice card of arguable one of the top 5 catchers.
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    70sfootball is cheap. I think Cassius Clay and Pele cards have a lot of room to grow too. The issue with both is awareness and having a single iconic rookie. The most recent smr article should give the 1966 panini Cassius Clay a bump. My favorite Pele card is the 58 titulares from Brazil but psa mislabeles them as hand cut. Also just about any tennis card sells for peanuts. I could see those catch up to golf atleast.
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  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. 1952 Bowman Mantle (followed by all Bowman Mantles 53-55)
    2. 1958 Topps Mantle/Aaron
    3. 1948 Bowman Yogi Berra
    4. 1964 Topps Pete Rose
    5. 1978 Topps Eddie Murray

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  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: eagles33
    70sfootball is cheap.

    Also just about any tennis card sells for peanuts. I could see those catch up to golf atleast.


    My thoughts exactly. Rookie 1971 topps Bradshaw's have actually gone down in the last 10-15 years. Surprising considering its a condition sensitive set.

    Also amazed how cheap you can pick up a 70's-early 80's Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe card considering they are 2 of the greatest Tennis players in history and both Americans.

    Another thing I cant figure out is how cheap hall of fame classic Bowling cards are. Bowling is the number 1 recreational sport in the U.S. and you can purchase 40-50 year old cards for next to nothing image

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • lseeconlseecon Posts: 318 ✭✭
    16k + for Rose rookies now in 8..........gobbled up in a few days. Psa 7s, at 4k. The madness continues. Maybe a diehard collector won the Powerball and is just living out his card collecting fantasy.

    seems like In the last 2 weeks, about every PSA 7, 8 or 9 high dollar HOF rookie card pre 1974 has been bought off Ebay.............great time to be a seller.............

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop=16&amp;_from=R40&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_nkw=psa 8 1963 rose&amp;LH_Complete=1&amp;LH_Sold=1&amp;rt=nc&amp;_trksid=p2045573.m1684

    Rose, Schmidt, you name the player......price is irrelevant. Are these legitimate sales?


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-MIKE-SCHMIDT-ROOKIE-615-PSA-8-NM-MT-/252399200844?hash=item3ac42a2a4c:g:ZW4AAOSwbPxXQg0K

  • travis ttravis t Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    I wonder what might happen the next time a high grade Alcindor rookie emerges in a PWCC auction. I don't have the guts to make it mine. Yet.
  • mb2005mb2005 Posts: 165 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: mintonlypls

    I am a Topps collector...so I will not go back as far as OP.



    1. Ernie Banks RC-mid 60s 8-9





    Well, its heating up for the Banks rookie: $12,250 is the latest
  • kingbeeswaxkingbeeswax Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: lseecon


    Rose, Schmidt, you name the player......price is irrelevant. Are these legitimate sales?


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-MIKE-SCHMIDT-ROOKIE-615-PSA-8-NM-MT-/252399200844?hash=item3ac42a2a4c:g:ZW4AAOSwbPxXQg0K



    The Schmidt sale is legit, I purchased it. Someone has been buying all the 8's and wanted another before they go any higher. I'm buying centered PSA 7 and 8's if anyone has.

  • lseeconlseecon Posts: 318 ✭✭
    You are correct, 9 PSA 8 Schmidts bought since May 17. Mostly someone just hit the BIN and scooped them up. I guess if you buy 9 PSA 8s and you get one bump to a 9 its all worth it? Is that what is going on? With 9s now going for over 3k? Is it the resubmit game that people or playing or just folks all of a sudden in a buying frenzy in last 7 days? Its quite interesting nonetheless.
  • I won this PSA8 less than a month ago



    73 Schmidti



    I was the only bidder on the auction which ended ~ 10am EST on a Thursday. Since I got it for much less than others have been selling for part of me wonders if it's even legit. It looks fine but maybe others passed because they saw something I didn't??
  • lseeconlseecon Posts: 318 ✭✭
    Looks good to me, but I am no PSA expert. Nice card. Looks like you got a good deal. You could probably list it for $500 tonight and someone might scoop it up if you are looking for a quick flip.
  • kingbeeswaxkingbeeswax Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭
    Maybe, a bump on a Schmidt to 8.5 or 9 would mean big bucks. I also got a PSA 8 2 weeks ago for $377, wish I could get another for that!
  • yankeesmanyankeesman Posts: 988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HOFers from the 1960 Topps baseball set seem undervalued to me in PSA 7 plus. I'm not a high end buyer but the PSA 7s I look for really don't seem to have moved much for the likes of Koufax, Berra, etc. from that set.
    Don Mattingly, Yogi Berra, Thurman Munson, Brian McCann and Topps Rookie Cup autograph collector
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