Disapointed

Jcld

So I got back what I thought was a 1918/7 S overdate quarter back from PCGS today. It came back as a straight 1918 S. I guess I was misinterpreting what I was seeing.



What do you think?



http://www.pcgs.com/cert/80891592

kookoox10

If it's in referencing the trueview photo on your link, it surely looks like the 1918/7. Did you pay for the variety attribution for this submission?

NotSure

Not my series, but even I can see the overdate That one will be headed back.

NotSure

My first double post!

jcping

Mechanical error ?

ianrussell

Looks like the variety from the photo. This is a variety you shouldn't have to pay for (I think). It's a major variety like the 1955 DDO 1c etc., that is automatic. Definitely send back for review or show to an expert.

- Ian

coindeuce

If you indicated the RedBook description in the variety box, PCGS should have put it on the label, unless they thought that the 8 was simply distorted by post Mint damage. Doesn't appear that way to me. Call Customer Service and ask for a 2nd review.

jdimmick

This is clearly a no question overdate, no need to pay for attribution, it has a standard coin number. Clearly a typo /mechanical error. :

My question is : did you assign coin number or have them do it?

jtlee321

Does PCGS still have the coin? If so, is there anyway to have them hold it and fix it? If not, I would send it right back and have them fix the problem.

Nice coin by the way. Did you buy it as an 18/7 or was it a cherrypick?

coinsarefun

Nice overdate!!!

MFH

Send it back noting their error of omission ...
They should assume all liability for postage &
insurance.

TwoSides2aCoin

Send it to me. I'll inspect it, as well as admire it for a while.

DoubleEagle59

Yup...it's the overdate.

AUandAG

I don't see the top of the 7 as it should be there.



I think is it a result of a post mint metal moving via a hit or two.



bob



PS: mintmark is different shape as well.

CaptHenway

Overdate!

jtlee321

Originally posted by: AUandAG
I don't see the top of the 7 as it should be there.

I think is it a result of a post mint metal moving via a hit or two.

bob

PS: mintmark is different shape as well.

I hope your just goofing because the top of the 7 is clear as day. The S has taken a hit so that the top of it is flattened out.

AMRC

Send it back. Someone messed up. It happens.

sparky64

It's only about a $4,700 difference between the two.

VanHalen

Originally posted by: sparky64

It's only about a $4,700 difference between the two.

Yep, no doubt a 1918/7 that was mislabeled.

AUandAG

Originally posted by: jtlee321

Originally posted by: AUandAG

I don't see the top of the 7 as it should be there.



I think is it a result of a post mint metal moving via a hit or two.



bob



PS: mintmark is different shape as well.

I hope your just goofing because the top of the 7 is clear as day. The S has taken a hit so that the top of it is flattened out.

Wow,and I have a 2015, government approved, Federal weights and measures certified, dual lens, 1,000 gigabit, Viewmaster monitor and I don't see the crossbar!!!



bob

IrishMikey

I am pretty sure I can see the small die chip that is to the right and above the date. I know that mistakes happen, but geez Louise, that one is a whopper.

The Federalist

Send it back and ask them to fix that, it had to be mislabeled unless I'm seeing things in that pic.

jtlee321

Originally posted by: AUandAG

Originally posted by: jtlee321

Originally posted by: AUandAG
I don't see the top of the 7 as it should be there.

I think is it a result of a post mint metal moving via a hit or two.

bob

PS: mintmark is different shape as well.

I hope your just goofing because the top of the 7 is clear as day. The S has taken a hit so that the top of it is flattened out.

Wow,and I have a 2015, government approved, Federal weights and measures certified, dual lens, 1,000 gigabit, Viewmaster monitor and I don't see the crossbar!!!

bob

Ahhhh.... You need at least the 2,000 gigabit.. That explains it. LOL

kookoox10

Furthermore, I too am interested if this is a cherrypick or did you knowingly buy it as the variety. That is a heck of a coin!!

Jcld

Thank you all for the replies. I found the coin in a hoard of coins that I inherited. It was in the 1918 slot of an old Whitman book.

DCW

Big find!
Im surprised Pcgs missed it, but again we beg the question: did you sibmit it under the 1918/7-s variety number?

Connecticoin

I will gladly pay full PCGS value based on that cert verification

Nice find! Question: on your form did you enter the PCGS coin number for the 8/7 variety?

jtlee321

Nice find!!

TopographicOceans

Originally posted by: Jcld
Thank you all for the replies. I found the coin in a hoard of coins that I inherited. It was in the 1918 slot of an old Whitman book.

Wow - nice find

As said, call PCGS to get if fixed.

oih82w8

The normal sized Certificate Verification the image is quite apparent, using the http://images.pcgs.com/trueview/80891592 the sloping portion of the "7" is painfully obvious.



Perhaps this coin went through either on a Monday or Friday.

Jcld

Thanks again for all the responses, although I have been collecting coins for a while, I am new to the certification and grading process. I submitted the coin with the number for the 8/7 quarter. Even if I didn't though shouldn't' PCGS have made the correction when they discovered that the coin number that was submitted wasn't accurate?



I had some half eagles graded and those types were changed from how I submitted them during the process.



But yes I will call them and see what they will do for me.



thanks

Connecticoin

Originally posted by: Jcld
Thanks again for all the responses, although I have been collecting coins for a while, I am new to the certification and grading process. I submitted the coin with the number for the 8/7 quarter. Even if I didn't though shouldn't' PCGS have made the correction when they discovered that the coin number that was submitted wasn't accurate?

I had some half eagles graded and those types were changed from how I submitted them during the process.

But yes I will call them and see what they will do for me.

thanks

It is definitely a mechanical error that PCGS should fix for free. The graders probably concurred that it was attributed correctly and then the wrong label was printed during the slabbing process.

To answer your second question, yes, even if you submitted it with the "1918-S" number, they usually will see the variety and attribute it as such. I once submitted an 1880-S Morgan that they saw was the 1880/9-S variety and they holdered it as such.

Great story here -- this is big reason why I come to these boards

ricko

That is a great find.... I agree, it is the overdate..... and to find it in an old collection, super!!

Cheers, RickO

lasvegasteddy

with no ill intent here

pcgs customer service is great and only a phone call away



was this sent in on an express?...by all rights this should of been sent in on express service level



or reg service level?

did you note in the variety note section that this was the overdate?

asheland

Sweet coin indeed! Send it back and get that fixed.

leothelyon

Originally posted by: DCW
Big find!
Im surprised Pcgs missed it, but again we beg the question: did you sibmit it under the 1918/7-s variety number?

So........(blink emoticon) we are to believe while the graders are examining this coin under their stereoscopes, they take note of the 8/7 but proof-reading the submission form to find no number or a check mark in a box they'll not enter the variety into their computers. The labels come later or are they still using post-its?


Leo

johnny9434

that sure looks like an over date to me as well.

LanceNewmanOCC

.

are the tpg "obligated" to state a variety on the insert for ones they do for free?



if you note variety on the form, seems it would prompt an attribution fee unless the correct (gratis) coin number is cited on the form.



ive wondered for a while.

.

oih82w8

From what I understand, if it is a MAJOR variety, no fee. If it is a Die Variety or Minor Variety then the $18 kicker comes in to play.



The 1918/7-S is a Major Variety, therefore no fee should be required.

Jcld

Hiya



Ya it was sent in at Express level, and I had the correct coin number in the submission. I will call customer service as soon as I am able.

sparky64

Glad you're going to call.

Customer service will take good care of you.

They will give you detailed instructions on how to return it.

lasvegasteddy

respectable enough there



yup

customer service will fix you right up



huge congrats on merely finding this tucked in that album

what an exciting moment in life that had to be

Jcld

I couldn't believe what I was looking at when I first took it out of the book. I initially was going to leave the 2 dozen or so books alone and just focus on the thousands of raw loose coins, but after looking at one book and realizing that there were several coins in the wrong places, i decided to take them all out and catalog them. I am glad I did.

kaz

Congrats on that find, very few people would have spotted it. "Fortune favors the prepared mind"