Numismatic Seminars Inc.

stealer

I recently purchased a coin that came with an old PNG certification slip as verification of a sale from Ron Gillio to some company called Numismatic Seminars, Inc.

Does anyone know what these guys were or did?




Thanks

coindeuce

Oooooh ! The rare R Series of Certificate !



I wonder, is Genuineness a synonym for Authenticity ?

stealer

Is it actually a piece of history to keep? Honestly, I was planning to tuck the certification away in some forlorn corner of my room, to be forgotten forever

coindeuce

Ron Gillio is still around, if you want to test his memory. I doubt that the enterprise he sold to is though.

sparky64

I don't have anything to offer about the cert, other than its kinda cool.



What about the coin?

Is it holdered or in some kind of flip?



60/63 is a funky grade. Do you agree with it?

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

Originally posted by: coindeuce
Ron Gillio is still around, if you want to test his memory. I doubt that the enterprise he sold to is though.

...isn't he on the board of experts over at PCGS? Neat coin and cert

coindeuce

Originally posted by: 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

Originally posted by: coindeuce

Ron Gillio is still around, if you want to test his memory. I doubt that the enterprise he sold to is though.

...isn't he on the board of experts over at PCGS? Neat coin and cert

That too. He has a B & M Coin /Jewelry store in Santa Barbara these days.

stealer

Originally posted by: sparky64
I don't have anything to offer about the cert, other than its kinda cool.

What about the coin?
Is it holdered or in some kind of flip?

60/63 is a funky grade. Do you agree with it?

Thanks! The coin is a 62, with a 63 reverse, and it came in a small old screw-type 1.5x1.5 plastic holder

Still looking for info on Numismatic Seminars, Inc

ricko

Neat piece of numismatic history... I keep things like this purely for that reason. Any pictures

of the coin?? Cheers, RickO

BStrauss3

Yes, the cert itself is collectable, especially with the coin still included. Please tuck it into an archival plastic sleeve and sell them together.

Now researching NSI comes up a little incestuous...

https://bizstanding.com/directory/CA/NU/332/

.... it's an inactive business, registered in 1984 with a Dennis Gillio as Pres.

https://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Santa-Barbara/helvetia-trading-corporation-of-america/41412410.aspx

.... Helvetia Trading Corporation of America (Ronald Gillio) with NSI listed as at the same address (along with Emi Gillio associated with "Gillio Rare Coins & Fine"

stealer

BStrauss,

Thanks, I really appreciate that information!

I will look for a proper holder for the certification and coin.

tyler267

Looks like they may be still around. From Bizapedia:


Numismatic Seminars, Inc. is a California Domestic Corporation filed on January 21, 1986. The company's filing status is listed as Suspended and its File Number is C1295951.

The Registered Agent on file for this company is Dennis Gillio and is located at 1013 State St., Santa Barbara, CA 93101. The company's principal address is 1013 State St., Santa Barbara, CA 93101.

The company has 1 principal on record. The principal is Dennis Gillio from Santa Barbara CA.


Company Information
Company Name: NUMISMATIC SEMINARS, INC.
File Number: C1295951
Filing State: California (CA)
Filing Status: Suspended
Filing Date: January 21, 1986
Company Age: 30 Years, 3 Months
Registered Agent:
Dennis Gillio
1013 State St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Principal Address:
1013 State St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101

Company Contacts
DENNIS GILLIO
Officer
1013 State St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101

epcjimi1

Originally posted by: stealer
I recently purchased a coin that came with an old PNG certification slip as verification of a sale from Ron Gillio to some company called Numismatic Seminars, Inc.

Does anyone know what these guys were or did?



Thanks

the word, "adjectival" in the legalese, LOL

TPRC

the word, "adjectival" in the legalese, LOL

My favorite term of art in this context is "puffery." FWIW, I didn't see much, if any, improper "adjectival" descriptions in the cert. The disclaimer is, of course, seeking to disclaim a warranty as to grade "Mint State 60/63" and the other language in the cert. bolsters that disclaimer.

TwoSides2aCoin

That's a lot of words around a coin. I'd just ask you if you liked it for XX amount since it costs XXX amount. And then came consistent (relatively speaking) graders who were experts and then there was God.

mrearlygold

There was a texas dealer who would make those certificates read any grade you wanted.

astrorat

Originally posted by: stealer
Is it actually a piece of history to keep? Honestly, I was planning to tuck the certification away in some forlorn corner of my room, to be forgotten forever

I sent you a PM ... I think.