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Mint Error: Counterfeit Coin on Nail--It's "Certified"

Although there are a few genuine examples out there, recently there have been a lot of counterfeit coins struck on nails showing up on eBay lately. Here's a new take on them--a quarter on a nail which comes with a "certificate of collection" (whatever that means), which is obviously meant to imply it is authentic.

Unfortunately, no doubt people will be taken in by this coin as they have been by the other coins on nails being sold on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Certif...7e5:g:AEsAAOSwdU1W9~fT

www.sullivannumismatics.com Dealer in Mint Error Coins.

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Item condition:

    --not specified



    “manufactured by Marcus Jacob Company London”

  • PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
    'Limited to 5000 Units.'
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    That's a lot better than all of the ones being sold without a "Certificate of Collection"
  • BodinBodin Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: PRECIOUSMENTAL
    'Limited to 5000 Units.'


    OMG.....you have got to be kidding
  • BodinBodin Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭
    I just noticed: the
    obverse is the LEFT side of Washington's portrait.
    the reverse is the RIGHT side of the eagle.
    That's just LAZY!
    ..............................................this is getting nuts
  • TassaTassa Posts: 2,373 ✭✭
    They're not saying it's an error coin...they're calling it an error nail.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Out of China by way of Malaysia but made in England just wording if the nail is made of steel from the Brooklyn Bridge. What did that guy say about a fool and his money?
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Its struck on an undersized planchet , your normal 25 penny nail is much bigger than that.
  • TomthecoinguyTomthecoinguy Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭
    This is a reproduction and is clearly meant to be one. While I hate this kind of reproduction, and believe it is illegal under the HPA. I have seen many threads that defend them.

    How the board sees most of the reproductions depends on who produces them, if they are produced in China or London they are bad. If produced in Florida or Colorado they are just fine. I don't mean to overly generalize, as many on this board are consistent in their response to reproductions.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rule 5) If you have nothing to contribute to an OP then do not post. Snide remarks and other negative comments will result in your losing your ability to post. No more warnings.

  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    It's gone! A carpenter must have been short a nail and used itimage
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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,115 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Tomthecoinguy
    This is a reproduction and is clearly meant to be one. While I hate this kind of reproduction, and believe it is illegal under the HPA. I have seen many threads that defend them.

    How the board sees most of the reproductions depends on who produces them, if they are produced in China or London they are bad. If produced in Florida or Colorado they are just fine. I don't mean to overly generalize, as many on this board are consistent in their response to reproductions.


    For the record, I do not condone making something like that which is not readily identifiable as a fantasy (due to having a clear fantasy date).
  • SullivanNumismaticsSullivanNumismatics Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭
    Although the seller doesn't claim that it's a U.S. Mint error, it's a coin which will end up on the market as being a mint error, and will deceive people. It's like having a coin which is a copy of a silver eagle, except there is not obvious way to see if it's genuine or not--a terrible idea.

    I've been shown coins struck on nails numerous times by people wondering if they're genuine, and once so far a customer who bought one for several hundred dollars thinking it was real (fortunately they got their money back via eBay, but once these enter the off-eBay market, that wont be the case.)
    www.sullivannumismatics.com Dealer in Mint Error Coins.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unbelievable.... SMH....Cheers, RickO
  • TomthecoinguyTomthecoinguy Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: dcarr
    Originally posted by: Tomthecoinguy
    This is a reproduction and is clearly meant to be one. While I hate this kind of reproduction, and believe it is illegal under the HPA. I have seen many threads that defend them.

    How the board sees most of the reproductions depends on who produces them, if they are produced in China or London they are bad. If produced in Florida or Colorado they are just fine. I don't mean to overly generalize, as many on this board are consistent in their response to reproductions.


    For the record, I do not condone making something like that which is not readily identifiable as a fantasy (due to having a clear fantasy date).


    Would you find it OK if the struck on nail reproduction had a clearly visible date of say a 1975 quarter?

    I understand we have a difference of opinion on where the line should be, but I am asking to try and understand your perspective.
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,115 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Tomthecoinguy
    Originally posted by: dcarr
    Originally posted by: Tomthecoinguy
    This is a reproduction and is clearly meant to be one. While I hate this kind of reproduction, and believe it is illegal under the HPA. I have seen many threads that defend them.

    How the board sees most of the reproductions depends on who produces them, if they are produced in China or London they are bad. If produced in Florida or Colorado they are just fine. I don't mean to overly generalize, as many on this board are consistent in their response to reproductions.


    For the record, I do not condone making something like that which is not readily identifiable as a fantasy (due to having a clear fantasy date).


    Would you find it OK if the struck on nail reproduction had a clearly visible date of say a 1975 quarter?

    I understand we have a difference of opinion on where the line should be, but I am asking to try and understand your perspective.


    It would be better if it showed a "1975" date (for example) because that would make it readily identifiable as a "fantasy".

    But I personally wouldn't make a fantasy-date strike on a nail. I only sell fantasy-date items that are over-struck on legal-tender coins of the same design type.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    they nailed it and got it certified. what a shame
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: dcarr



    It would be better if it showed a "1975" date (for example) because that would make it readily identifiable as a "fantasy".





    just curious how having a date of 1975 (1976, 1986 etc would make it an obvious fantasy piece?



    not piling on; just curious. image

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: LanceNewmanOCC
    Originally posted by: dcarr

    It would be better if it showed a "1975" date (for example) because that would make it readily identifiable as a "fantasy".


    just curious how having a date of 1975 (1976, 1986 etc would make it an obvious fantasy piece?

    not piling on; just curious. image
    .


    Even a future date, like Zombucks, would only be considered a fantasy piece until that year rolled around.

    And unless the Zombie Apocalypse occurs next year, the future date will occur.

    But maybe the real issue is that there is a TPG certified nail.

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