Forget grades, are the prettiest coins generally found in PCGS slabs?

braddick

Now that the services have been grading and holdering coins for about 30 years or so, with millions encapsulated, is it safe to assume the prettiest ones are generally found in PCGS slabs?

I can't imagine too many are still raw and certainly the finest have migrated from others slabs into PCGS, yet perhaps even though I am expressing this question allowing for exceptions, my theory is not the case.

rainbowroosie

Not necessarily true. Many toned modern silver coins are in NGC star holders.

jcping

I doubt it. Lately, I saw many beautifully toned coins did not cross to PCGS due to questionable colors. Many of them are CACed.

LindeDad

Been taught to never assume anything.

ebaybuyer

depends entirely on the series, moderns that are supported by those that need to have the finest known in the highest grade,... perhaps... but those coins aren't necessarily what everyone considers "pretty". many really pretty coins wont be found in any holder as they would have to be dipped in order to receive a fair grade, so to answer your question, yes and no

fivecents

Even as we speak the old no line NGC fattie holders are still toning white coins into colorful coins.

Bochiman

A lot of the prettiest coins aren't slabbed at all.......

david3142

Because NGC has the star for eye appeal, I think there are more pretty coins in their holders than there otherwise would be. A (slight) majority of my toned coins are in NGC holders. A huge majority of the rest of my collection is with PCGS.

TopographicOceans

NGC does have * grades so a lot of submitters go for that.
I don't think your assumption is correct.

oih82w8

Phil does take some wonderful images of some beautiful coins!

halfhunter

Originally posted by: david3142

Because NGC has the star for eye appeal, I think there are more pretty coins in their holders than there otherwise would be. A (slight) majority of my toned coins are in NGC holders. A huge majority of the rest of my collection is with PCGS.

HH

DollarAfterDollar

If I think a coin has star potential it goes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.

coinkat

Don't know- pretty can be as subjective as grading...

mercurydimeguy

I'll be the contrarian and say NGC plastic ... many of us wish they were in PCGS plastic but too many downgrades keep them in non-PCGS plastic.



Most of my pretty PCGS coins were not bought but rather made. Usually the grade difference of one point is worth more than eye appeal so most will stay in their non PCGS plastic.



Conversely really pretty coins in PCGS plastic bring a lot of money because most are the real deal. Pretty and legit and conservatively graded.



Of course nothing is 100% but from my line of sight I think most pretty coins are not in PCGS plastic. But at the high end, THE prettiest high end coins are predominately in PCGS plastic.



My 10 cents

keets

Pat, you should have known what you were gonna get when you asked this question, what prompted it??

Steve27

No, some of the best looking coins I've seen aren't in plastic. There are still a lot of collectors out there who have no use for slabbed coins.

P.S. One of them used to be a judge for ANA exhibits. He told me he always deducted points for slabbed material, because he felt the slabs distracted from the look of the coin/display.

astrorat

With respect to circulated Bust halves and twenty-cent pieces (the two series of which I pay the most attention), coins in PCGS holders tend to appear nicer (originality) than those in ANACS and NGC holders. I make no judgment for or against any TPG, it's just my observation.

roadrunner

The prettier coins in 19th century silver type seem to be in NGC holders. I've alway felt that PCGS leans to blast white coins while NGC leans toward original toned surfaces. NGC seems to give more points for nice color on original surfaces, regardless of some insignificant stray marks. Sometimes the luster gets a bit subdued because of that colorful toning. They might be prettier, but PCGS tends to grade those same coins a 1/3 to 1/2 point tougher.



The arbitrage price difference between those 2 grades often determines who's holder they eventually end up in. It's all about the money. One size doesn't fit all. The PCGS registry set makes a big difference as well. Many will prefer to have a PCGS 66 CAC coin than say an NGC MS67 that doesn't sticker. They will downgrade that coin to enter it into their set.

Shamika

Originally posted by: Bochiman
A lot of the prettiest coins aren't slabbed at all.......

I suspect this is true.

7Jaguars

Darkside - No!

WildIdea

Very nice coins in both holders, dogs in both too. Color not the only marker making a coin pretty. I own a both a blast white Walker and a white Morgan that have been awarded a * purely on mint luster bloom.

BryceM

In general, generalizations don't generally generate general consensus.

ctf_error_coins

No. I love buying the best coins in little ANACS slabs. I would never break open an little white slab to put into a clear slab.

BAJJERFAN

Originally posted by: jcping

I doubt it. Lately, I saw many beautifully toned coins did not cross to PCGS due to questionable colors. Many of them are CACed.

Maybe in that case it means that "Color Aint Considered."

Walkerguy21D

No. I love buying the best coins in little ANACS slabs. I would never break open an little white slab to put into a clear slab.

A number of my large cents are in little white ANACS slabs, and I have no intent on crossing them anytime soon.

Ironically, I was talking with a dealer acquaintance about my 1804 last Sunday....he said for fee, he would crack it, give it to someone who could 'improve' it, and then cross it to PCGS....I politely declined the offer.

johnny9434

it depends on how one might see that

ricko

Since I do not like tarnished coins, I would postulate the opposite....that is, some ugly coins

in slabs.... Cheers, RickO

Raybo

Originally posted by: Walkerguy21D

No. I love buying the best coins in little ANACS slabs. I would never break open an little white slab to put into a clear slab.

A number of my large cents are in little white ANACS slabs, and I have no intent on crossing them anytime soon.

Ironically, I was talking with a dealer acquaintance about my 1804 last Sunday....he said for fee, he would crack it, give it to someone who could 'improve' it, and then cross it to PCGS....I politely declined the offer.

Amen!